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#1
how the hell do i tune to A# F A# D# G C ? my tuner does'nt have a f or c
#2
then you need a new tuner

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#4
well, you can either buy a new tuner, or be fretting notes when you tune... like if you know you want your one string to be an F, just play the second fret on that string until the tuner says "G."
#5
well i dont have a very well trained ear and a crappy tuner, non chromatic of course
#12
bunk! :\ i just had my guitar reset and i bought new strings.... kinda out of money
#13
Quote by pLx
how the hell do i tune to A# F A# D# G C ? my tuner does'nt have a f or c


Chromatic tuner, keyboard, find a tuning website. Or just tune one of the strings that your tuner does have and ear match the rest to it.
#14
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honestly, just tune your guitar to Drop D or Drop D/Half Step Down. You dont need to tune down that goddamn low. it just sounds a semitone higher.
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#15
Quote by Shredder Guitar
honestly, just tune your guitar to Drop D or Drop D/Half Step Down. You dont need to tune down that goddamn low. it just sounds a semitone higher.


thats a really good point
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#16
well i have it tuned to drop D right now ( DADGBE ) and it doesnt sound even close
#17
Quote by pLx
firggin, please elaborate


your tuner will probably only tune to E, B, G, D and A. The notes in music always go in a set order... the entire order is this:

A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, etc...

there's no B# and no E#... you just have to accept that as the way it is.

anyways, if you play your open A string without fretting anything, you are playing A. Therefore, the first fret is A# and the second fret is B, and so on... so if you needed to tune to a note that isn't on your tuner, you could tune while fretting higher notes. if you tune your string so that the second fret plays a G, then counting backwards will show that your first fret is F# and your open string is now an F.

If you need C, tune your second fret to D. If you need A#, tune your first fret to B.
#18
Quote by Shredder Guitar
honestly, just tune your guitar to Drop D or Drop D/Half Step Down. You dont need to tune down that goddamn low. it just sounds a semitone higher.


yeah, because it always sounds SO good to play along to records when you're a half-step out of tune with the entire band...

#19
Quote by pLx
well i have it tuned to drop D right now ( DADGBE ) and it doesnt sound even close



so? just because i like job for a cowboy and meshuggah it doesnt mean i want to tune my guitar down to A# and F. get a grip, the notes might be higher, but youre playing the same damn thing.
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#20
in flames tunes that low too
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#21
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yeah, because it always sounds SO good to play along to records when you're a half-step out of tune with the entire band...




yeah, shut up.

not all people like to sit there and play along to a CD.
And what if the kid wants to play stuff thats not tuned down to the depths of hell? everything else will sound like ****. so stop being such a smartass.
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#22
Quote by Shredder Guitar
yeah, shut up.

not all people like to sit there and play along to a CD.
And what if the kid wants to play stuff thats not tuned down to the depths of hell? everything else will sound like ****. so stop being such a smartass.

I sense overtones of schizo...:|

Anyway stop giving the kid the lectures on tuning. If he wants to tune that low, let him. Let him find out on his own whether he likes it or not.
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#23
Download the trial version of Guitar Pro, go to track-> properties and set the tuning there. Then go to Tools-> Digital Guitar Tuner and tune there. You will need a pretty good microphone though.
#24
Quote by Shredder Guitar
yeah, shut up.

not all people like to sit there and play along to a CD.
And what if the kid wants to play stuff thats not tuned down to the depths of hell? everything else will sound like ****. so stop being such a smartass.


nah. i say you need to look at the situation... the kid isn't even sure how to tune without a chromatic... i don't think he's far enough along to not get really frustrated trying to transpose tabs a half-step this way or that way...

plus, bands use tunings for a reason. maybe the sound of some open C's and F's are what makes the melody of this song really work... maybe one can't properly fret the chord grips in the song because they contain specific open notes at specific intervals...

and in the end of it all, he asked us HOW DO I TUNE TO A# F A# D# G C ?

he didn't ask "HOW DO I GET TOLD THAT WHAT I WANT TO TRY IS NO GOOD?"

have a nice day. i don't argue on the internet longer than two posts, so go ahead and get your last word in, big guy.
#25
Quote by DagMX
I sense overtones of schizo...:|

Anyway stop giving the kid the lectures on tuning. If he wants to tune that low, let him. Let him find out on his own whether he likes it or not.


lol do you have a clue of what the word "schizophrenic" means?

i didnt say he shouldnt tune that low. i said that if its not available to, just tune down to Drop D instead.
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#26
Quote by frigginjerk
nah. i say you need to look at the situation... the kid isn't even sure how to tune without a chromatic... i don't think he's far enough along to not get really frustrated trying to transpose tabs a half-step this way or that way...

plus, bands use tunings for a reason. maybe the sound of some open C's and F's are what makes the melody of this song really work... maybe one can't properly fret the chord grips in the song because they contain specific open notes at specific intervals...

and in the end of it all, he asked us HOW DO I TUNE TO A# F A# D# G C ?

he didn't ask "HOW DO I GET TOLD THAT WHAT I WANT TO TRY IS NO GOOD?"

have a nice day. i don't argue on the internet longer than two posts, so go ahead and get your last word in, big guy.


oh i wasnt arguing. i didnt say that what he was doing was no good either. please dont try to just jump to conclusions. and you really dont need to sound all official announcing to everyone how long you argue.
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#27
Quote by Shredder Guitar
lol do you have a clue of what the word "schizophrenic" means?

i didnt say he shouldnt tune that low. i said that if its not available to, just tune down to Drop D instead.

yes i do...its a dellusional perceptional disorder often confused with MPD since it can overlap..

and the way you were posting in this thread...well...

Anyway, I see your point but the way you said it deffinitely not helpful in the least and being rude to others just because they made a valid point that contradicted yours.
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#28
Quote by DagMX
yes i do...its a dellusional perceptional disorder often confused with MPD since it can overlap..

and the way you were posting in this thread...well...

Anyway, I see your point but the way you said it deffinitely not helpful in the least and being rude to others just because they made a valid point that contradicted yours.


i fail to believe that being a smartass counts as being "valid."
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#29
I'm surprised that no one has asked yet but, What gauge are you using? you need to have very thick strings to tune it that low (so it sound good).

But with the tuning, you could download Guitar Pro and if you have a microphone then you just use the tuner in the program to tune it that low, or just buy a chromatic tuner.
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#30
Quote by Shredder Guitar
i fail to believe that being a smartass counts as being "valid."

He may have said it in a seemingly arrogant way(I didnt think so though), but his point is valid. What if the guy is playing with a band, or even with a CD, it'll sound off.

I understand your point of doing it on an easier to do tuning, but you did not elaborate and seeing as the kid cant tune without a tuner( I assume he doesn't understand relative notes and 4th therefore), saying that it will work in that tuning isn't much help.
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#31
Quote by Shredder Guitar
honestly, just tune your guitar to Drop D or Drop D/Half Step Down. You dont need to tune down that goddamn low. it just sounds a semitone higher.


Actually would put it that put a step and a half higher or two steps, which is a big difference. Slipknot doesn't sound good in Drop D, and Three Days Grace doesn't sound good in Drop B. Tunings exist for a reason.
#32
i say either buy a bass or buy a 7-string. Once you get that low your in bass territory.
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#33
it's really not that complicated i don't understand why there are 30+ replies in this thread..

If you're going to be doing alot of alternate tunings you should buy a chromatic tuner. Also make sure you have the proper string gauge for a tuning that low. Right now I use a .54 on the bottom and i can hit drop A# with absolutely no problem, I'm not saying you NEED a ridiculous gauge like mine () but your standard .09's won't work..


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#34
god damn drop A is too frickin low

nice highs

but the lows may as well be bass lol
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#35
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breaking benjamin



Theyre full of gay, they stole that off Static-X, the entirity of Cannibal and Shadow Zone was in A#
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#37
Quote by Coaxke
Theyre full of gay, they stole that off Static-X, the entirity of Cannibal and Shadow Zone was in A#


You can't "steal" a tuning, dumbass. I write a lot of music in Drop C. Should I stop because I stole if from a System Of A Down? Should I stop writing in D Standard where the majority of my music is because Cradle Of Filth did it first?

Just out of curiousity, why do people tune to Drop A? Why not get a 7 string and drop the low b? Same advantages, One finger powerchords, lower notes, but you don't have to kill your tone and sacrifice some high notes.
#38
Quote by Macabre_Turtle
You can't "steal" a tuning, dumbass. I write a lot of music in Drop C. Should I stop because I stole if from a System Of A Down? Should I stop writing in D Standard where the majority of my music is because Cradle Of Filth did it first?

Just out of curiousity, why do people tune to Drop A? Why not get a 7 string and drop the low b? Same advantages, One finger powerchords, lower notes, but you don't have to kill your tone and sacrifice some high notes.



smartest post in this thread, NQA.
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#39
Quote by Macabre_Turtle
Just out of curiousity, why do people tune to Drop A? Why not get a 7 string and drop the low b? Same advantages, One finger powerchords, lower notes, but you don't have to kill your tone and sacrifice some high notes.

To get the low tuning without having to buy a new guitar, or have a wider neck.

A 7 string doesn't let you go lower. It gives you range. Pickup differences aside, if you tuned a 6 string to B standard, it would sound almost exaclty like a 7 in standard tuning. All a 7 does is give you range to play over. Granted though that it would be quicker to drop a 7 then a 6 to that tuning.
His tone won't suffer either unless he still uses light gauges. He will lose the high notes though.

And mark tremonti, sikth etc... all tune down on a 6 string and they sound amazing
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#40
Quote by Rockon914
what band tunes that low?

job for a cowboy (genesis)
in flames (some songs)
bury your dead

anyone else wanna add to the list coz ive got a mind blank
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