#1
I'm at the moment very close to buying a new guitar (the Ibanez RG2550e from the RG prestige series), which has a locking nut for the guitar to stay in tune. I mostly play in standard tuning or in drop D, and that's why i need to know:

How long does it take to tune a guitar with a locking nut from a standard tuning to a drop D tuning or the other way around?
#2
If you're not used to the Floyd about 15 mins to get it spot on.
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#3
it takes me about a minute, unlock the lowest locking nut (e and a string) tune it down , lock it back uo, and adjust on floyd. easy. 5 mins tops.
#4
im not sure if that guitar has a floyd rose or not, but if it has anything but a floyd rose system, like if it has a an edge pro or something, DON'T BUY IT. I have an RG with a locking nut system but it sucks so much you can't use a whammy bar at all cause it destroys the tuning, and usually it will go out of tune anyway. THEN you have to figure out how to change your strings....trust me it just sucks.
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#5
if you put the knobs on the floyd right in the middle and standard tune you should be able to detune the low e 2 steps loosening the knob all the way i believe i can do that with mine
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it takes me about a minute, unlock the lowest locking nut (e and a string) tune it down , lock it back uo, and adjust on floyd. easy. 5 mins tops.

This guy is spot on, use an allen key to loosen that nut, detune the string, then tighten it again. Then any adjustments to the tremelo bar if you have one.
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if you put the knobs on the floyd right in the middle and standard tune you should be able to detune the low e 2 steps loosening the knob all the way i believe i can do that with mine

excatly what i do.. works really well..
#8
No chance...you *might* get the low E down to D but you won't have enough travel in the tuners to get the other strings back in tune.
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#9
to tune to D fastly you just need the fine tuners at the bridge! you don´t need to unlock the nut!!
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#10
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to tune to D fastly you just need the fine tuners at the bridge! you don´t need to unlock the nut!!


+1 i guess this is what i have cause i have no problem detuning
#11
the ibanez doesnt have a large...range in how much it can be adjusted for fine tuning on the bridge tuners.

what i normally have to do is open the back loosen up the springs to balance the less tension in the string with the lower tuning till its level with the guitar in the tuning you want. can take a while but thats the proper way to do it

EDIT: and if you just lower the e string and dont change the bridge the rest of the string will slightly come out of tune as the balance of the bridge will be closer to the guitar cause the other strings to tighten a tad
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No chance...you *might* get the low E down to D but you won't have enough travel in the tuners to get the other strings back in tune.

I can?
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#13
You can? I know the Lo Pro won't do it, not that I really bother with detuning.
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You can? I know the Lo Pro won't do it, not that I really bother with detuning.

Yeah, you just tune to standard but have the bridge tuner slightly more 'in' (but obviously still in tune, so you slightly alter the headstock tuner) and you just de-tune it to D and then slightly de-tune the G string (thats the only one that goes noticeably out of tune to me) and tadaaaa
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#15
All your posts has helped alot, some more than others of course.

I'll try using the fine tuners.

Thank you, all of you.
#16
You could always get a D-Tuna, I'm not entirely sure if you can install it on an Ibanez trem, and I have no idea how much they cost, but it'd do exactly what you want in about dive seconds, and EVH doesn't generally endorse ****, so I'm sure they're reliable.
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#17
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im not sure if that guitar has a floyd rose or not, but if it has anything but a floyd rose system, like if it has a an edge pro or something, DON'T BUY IT. I have an RG with a locking nut system but it sucks so much you can't use a whammy bar at all cause it destroys the tuning, and usually it will go out of tune anyway. THEN you have to figure out how to change your strings....trust me it just sucks.


I 2nd that, I bought a RG 370DX and it was perfect except the trem which made me CRAZY!

So I got a RG321MH with a FIXED BRIDGE. No problems.

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#19
Takes me about 30 minutes on my unstable EDGE III tremolo from ibanez. On my original floyd rose guitar, it takes maybe 5 minutes to from from standard to Drop D. Prolly 15 from going to Drop D to Drop C.

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#20
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No, you cannot just go down to drop D, all the other strings will detune.

Not true. I do it every day.
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#21
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Not true. I do it every day.

It isn't physically possible to alter the tuning of a string without affecting the other ones on a floating bridge UNLESS you have some kind of tremsetter. If you've simply been dropping the E to D and not re-tuning the other strings they will have been going out of tune. you just haven't been noticing.
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Takes me about 30 minutes on my unstable EDGE III tremolo from ibanez. On my original floyd rose guitar, it takes maybe 5 minutes to from from standard to Drop D. Prolly 15 from going to Drop D to Drop C.

If you get it, make sure to oil it every once in a while. Also make sure dust and moisture doesn't collect . If your confused with something about it, Ask UG!



that proves what a ball breaking thing a floyd rose really is!
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#23
Ibanez RG 3XX series have an edge 3 trem..


The prestige ones have Edge Pro trems.. Big difference you know. The edge pro doesnt drive you nuts like the edge 3 does.
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#25
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It isn't physically possible to alter the tuning of a string without affecting the other ones on a floating bridge UNLESS you have some kind of tremsetter. If you've simply been dropping the E to D and not re-tuning the other strings they will have been going out of tune. you just haven't been noticing.

I do re-tune the other strings slightly, but they don't all go out of tune all that much simply dropping one tone.
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#26
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I do re-tune the other strings slightly, but they don't all go out of tune all that much simply dropping one tone.


once again i say this in this thread, SAME WITH ME. im pretty sure its possible if at least 2 of us have said over and over that its possible maybe you cant do it but we can
#27
Re-tuning slightly isn't the same as not having to re-tune them though, I can make minor tuning adjustments by ear without thinking, but for some people even tiny tuning adjustments take a realtively long time.
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#28
i dont believe anybody said that we were disagreeing with the fact that everybody said it was impossible for them to stay in tune and that every string went drastically out thats what was implied anyways and mine strings dont even go a little bit out cause my lock nut->S<- (yes plural) are individual to each string this does occur on some guitars and we are graced with no problems like you may have bottom line though.. ITS POSSIBLE