#1
I'm looking to get a new amp and new pickups. For amp I'm thinking around $1000, but if there is a cheaper one that is fine. I really want to get a great clean tone, and a real gut-wrenching distortion. I'm willing to purchase a pedal or two as well, although I already have a Gt-8 which I can use (only if it makes significant difference). I was thinking about a vox valvetronix, JSX, Framus Cobra, and a Mesa Mark IV combo.

For pickups I currently have passive EMG's in my Jackson. I was thinking either EMG's (recommendations on combinations), SD's, or DiMarzios.

EDIT: Amp only has to be loud enough to play with a band, but you know what they say the bigger the better.
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#2
what amps can you try easily?
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what amps can you try easily?

I can try most mainstream (vox, fender, marshall) amps easily, the framus and the mesa I won't be able to get a hold of to play. But, I've heard soundclips and like the framus the best so far.

And by the way. A nice overdrive sound would be nice as well as I do like classic rock to.

Why can't one amp have it all????
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#4
I used to own a Valvetronix, and while it's really great for a sub $400 amp, I would say that it the Mesa and the JSX blow it out of the water completely.
#5
Do they sell Mesa's at Guitar Center? There's one about 45 minutes away from me. I usually go to Sam Ash.

EDT: Sorry I didn't mean Valvetronix got it mixed up. I meant something like this http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-AC30CC2-30W-2x12-Custom-Classic-Combo?sku=482620
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Do they sell Mesa's at Guitar Center? There's one about 45 minutes away from me. I usually go to Sam Ash.


You'd have to call, some Guitar Centers are dealers, some aren't.
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#7
I'm gonna say definitely the Peavey JSX for amp, and Seymour Duncan Blackouts for pups.
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I'm gonna say definitely the Peavey JSX for amp, and Seymour Duncan Blackouts for pups.

What do the blackouts have over the EMG's?
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#9
You'll be a lot happier with the cleans on the blackouts than EMGs, but the EMG 81/85 setup has a bit more punch on the high gain end. Blackouts are probably the next best thing to them, though. They also have less hum.
#10
Any other suggestions ampwise?
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#11
Its hard to find an amp that'll have great cleans and tough as nails distortion. The JSX is the only one I can really think of. Its an extremely versatile amp.

I'm not sure how the 6505 or XXX hold up to cleans, but their distortion is great. The Peavey Classics have great cleans from what I've heard. 5150 are amazing for distortion but you won't find any sort of quality cleans from them..

Mesa's are always an idea out there, but they don't have the same kind of balls that a 5150 or 6505 has. They do have cleans though, depending on the model.
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Do they sell Mesa's at Guitar Center?

Not at the one near me.
#13
some people will disagree, but the peavey valveking halfstack has more gain then you will ever need for metal plus a great clean tone.

but if you can afford the jsx go for it. are they really under 1000?
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some people will disagree, but the peavey valveking halfstack has more gain then you will ever need for metal plus a great clean tone.

but if you can afford the jsx go for it. are they really under 1000?


You can find a used JSX head for about 800-900. You'd still need a cab, though.

The Valve Kings are good for the price, but if you really want high gain, they aren't your amp. You'd be much better off looking around for a used 5150 or 6505.
#15
The 5150 seems to be great for the distortion, but from descriptions the clean tone is lacking. Seeing as I do use cleans quite often it's and important factor.

Does the JSX have the "balls", as well. The clean tone was smooth as silk, when I played it.

Opinions on the Framus? That's the one I'm considering most after I heard some awesome sound clips.

And my local GC does carry Mesa's so I'll check those out. I'm going to try to make a trip down there this weekend, but want to narrow my choices down.
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The Framus is everything a Recto wanted to be.
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The Framus is everything a Recto wanted to be.

how are the cleans? The distortion must be amazing.
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The cleans are supposedly really good for a high-gainer.

EDIT: if you don't need rock crunch, you could consider a Fireball (good cleans and all-out br00tal).
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The cleans are supposedly really good for a high-gainer.

EDIT: if you don't need rock crunch, you could consider a Fireball (good cleans and all-out br00tal).

Sounds good.
What about a triple rectifier. I can get a good deal on one of them. 1200+Black Friday+ Discount from friends bro who works there= cheap.
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depends how cheap you can get it. the cleans are nicer than a 5150, but still not great. EDIT: actually that's the dual i'm talking about- i haven't tried the triple.
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#21
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The 5150 seems to be great for the distortion, but from descriptions the clean tone is lacking. Seeing as I do use cleans quite often it's and important factor.

Does the JSX have the "balls", as well. The clean tone was smooth as silk, when I played it.

Opinions on the Framus? That's the one I'm considering most after I heard some awesome sound clips.

And my local GC does carry Mesa's so I'll check those out. I'm going to try to make a trip down there this weekend, but want to narrow my choices down.


The JSX will do okay with high gain, but it has more of a higher sound than a low end punch. Try one out in the Ultra channel if you want to see what I'm talking about.

I'm not familiar with Framus, but I've heard the Cobras are nothing short of amazing. You also might want to consider as someone said the ENGL Fireball. Touch as nails distortion and better cleans than a 5150 by far.

I'd stay away from Mesa for death metal, but thats just my personal opinion.