Poll: Country 1 or Country 2?
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#1
Say there are two countries equal in size and population, country 1, and country 2.

Country 1 is Capitalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism)

Country 2 is Communist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism)

- both are democratic and well off.
- in both countries, the economic systems are working exactly as intended.

For Example:

In capitalism: No monopolies.

In communism: No corruption in government.

So, All flaws in both are nonexistent.


Assuming that this all the information you know about both countries, and you had to choose one of them to live in, which would you choose?

EDIT: Since I can't edit the poll, disregard it, and post the one you'd choose.
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Last edited by ldl67 at Nov 19, 2007,
#2
in communism there is no government
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#3
both your options are country 1. you facist!
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#4
Why does country 1 get to be capitalist? what are you implying...
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#5
I choose a Chucktatorship.

Really, though, if a Communist country ever worked the way it's meant to, then I would go for it! Unfortunately, people suck and have to ruin things for everyone...
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#6
The Poll is flawed...

Both options are country 1...
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#7
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both your options are country 1. you facist!

it was an accident, and i would choose country 2. And it's spelled "fascist".
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#8
Uhh... If both countries work flawlessly, I don't really see how it'd matter. Depends on what's important to you.

Plus, you can't really not have monopolies in capitalism, that's part of the "system", if you will. It's just what happens. That's like saying "Imagine evolution, without the dominant predator..."
#9
Quote by Vermintide
Uhh... If both countries work flawlessly, I don't really see how it'd matter. Depends on what's important to you.

Plus, you can't really not have monopolies in capitalism, that's part of the "system", if you will. It's just what happens. That's like saying "Imagine evolution, without the dominant predator..."

but it was intended to work differently. the "invisible hand" thing.
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#13
Communism is great in theory, but every time in history that communism has been applied, the country is unable to function properly and corruption is everywhere
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#14
The principals capitalism is based on requires that monopolies be able to exist. If businesses are limited (by the gov't) to non-monopolies its not really capitalism, is it?
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Communism is great in theory, but every time in history that communism has been applied, the country is unable to function properly and corruption is everywhere



Communism hasn't been applied :p
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#17
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Uhh... If both countries work flawlessly, I don't really see how it'd matter. Depends on what's important to you.

Plus, you can't really not have monopolies in capitalism, that's part of the "system", if you will. It's just what happens. That's like saying "Imagine evolution, without the dominant predator..."


same with communism, although large scale corruption won't be there(although all governments are some what corrupted, its in our nature) there will still be major lack of incentive to work if we're all getting paid the same. in capitalism, at least you have a tiny bit of upward mobility.
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Quote by Rosseta Stoned
Communism is great in theory, but every time in history that communism has been applied, the country is unable to function properly and corruption is everywhere

yes, and capitalism is also great in theory, but in practise, there are flaws such as poverty, and monopolies.
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Communism is great in theory, but every time in history that communism has been applied, the country is unable to function properly and corruption is everywhere


I agree completely, that's exactly what I meant.
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#21
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it was an accident, and i would choose country 2. And it's spelled "fascist".


for both of us.

and communism > capitalism imo. although both are flawed beyond belief.
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Communism hasn't been applied :p


Soviet Union? How could you not call that being applied? the country was strictly communistic
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#23
communism? are you f***ing kidding me?
communism states that everyone is equal in opportunity, merit, and earning of wealth.
This is the fundamental flaw. Some humans are just plain better than others. If I'm smarter, or work harder than some idiot, I better make more money than him.
Therefore, communism is foolish.
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#24
Capitalism is an economic system...not a government.

A better question would be Capitalism or Socialism? Since they are on opposite sides of the economic spectrum.

And Communism is a mindset of the idealist. It will never work because we are human by nature, in a perfect world it would probably be the best form of government. But you have to be realistic when thinking about these things.
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Communism hasn't been applied :p


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Anyway, I live in a former communist country. Communism is a piece of shit, and people who say that it's better than capitalism are retards.
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Soviet Union? How could you not call that being applied? the country was strictly communistic



The country had several dictators... the entire basis of communism is democracy.
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#30
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Uhh... If both countries work flawlessly, I don't really see how it'd matter. Depends on what's important to you.


Exactly. The choice is in what you think is less flawed.
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#31
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Capitalism is an economic system...not a government.

A better question would be Capitalism or Socialism? Since they are on opposite sides of the economic spectrum.

And Communism is a mindset of the idealist. It will never work because we are human by nature, in a perfect world it would probably be the best form of government. But you have to be realistic when thinking about these things.


Exactly. Human, by nature, is a exceptionally greedy and violent being. Although the idea of everyone being equal is great, we as a race do not want to be equal. We all want to be better than the next guy. Thats just are nature.
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#32
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Perfect communisum is actually one of the best forms of government...


examples plz.
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#33
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Exactly. Human, by nature, is a exceptionally greedy and violent being. Although the idea of everyone being equal is great, we as a race do not want to be equal. We all want to be better than the next guy. Thats just are nature.


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#34
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Exactly. Human, by nature, is a exceptionally greedy and violent being. Although the idea of everyone being equal is great, we as a race do not want to be equal. We all want to be better than the next guy. Thats just are nature.



You talk as if our nature is this fixed thing that doesn't change. Most people nowadays would agree with Marx when he says that we get our nature from our environment. Which means that obviously living in a capitalistic environment...
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#35
If they're both flawless, it doesn't matter. The point is that in the real world, both are flawed.
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#36
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Perfect communisum is actually one of the best forms of government...


Did you know Lenin thought the same thing?

unfortunately man by nature seeks to be better than his neighbor, it drives the economy, MUSIC, technical advancement and many other thing we all take for granted, communist nations usually have fake economies driven by political motives and force, as much as capitalism has flaws, I like it.
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#39
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examples plz.

Well there isn't any to give because the human race is to conquore...(i probably spelt that wrong) so yeah
#40
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lol why are people actually voting?


yeah I wouldn't figure communists would know how to vote
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