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#1
With all the different sub genres of Heavy Metal these days nobody knows what it actually is. Lets clear this up. If someone asked you to show them a band that portrayed Heavy Metal, what band would you show them.

Pantera is my choice. I believe they are Heavy Metal.

Whats your opinion?
#2
Pantera is Thrash Metal -_-.

Obviously, Iron Maiden IMO.
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Black Sabbath

Iron Maiden

Judas Priest
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Pantera is Thrash Metal -_-.

Obviously, Iron Maiden IMO.



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i dont know if any band can be classified as purely HEAVY METAL. metal/heavy metal have SOOO many sub genres that you can put a ton of bands in with heavy metal, as well as harcore, or thrash, or other genres. its really just a complex system.
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errr not this fight again even i dont know exactly what metal is so yea its really kinda blurry the lines of what is and isnt metal
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black sabbath or metallica
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#10
iron maiden, judas priest, racer x..

thats the only bands i listen to that i would consider heavy metal..
#11
for me it refers to slightly older bands such as Motley Crue or Metallica. It's probably different to every person though
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What we think is heavy metal is not what it always was.

When I say heavy metal, I am talking about bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, and so on.

If I asked my mother the same question, she would say bands like Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy, Led Zep and that kinda thing. Bands I would have generally considered just classic rock or something.

So it's also an age thing IMO.

But, as I quote a series of videos I saw on Youtube (which I can no longer seem to find, or remember correctly), "If the drums are pounding, the bass is thumping, the guitars are raunchy and raw, and the vocalist is screeching, that's heavy metal."-I forget who it was.
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also, check out the "Metal-A headbangers Journey" dvd

its got some pretty nifty stuff about metal and the different genres
#16
eh.. doesn't matter to me.. heavy metal is heavy metal...lol
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#18
According to "Metal: A Headbangers Journey", it is bands like Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Deep Purple that are classified as Heavy metal.
#19
Yeah Hakattacks got it!

I think mercury is my favourite 'heavy metal'.
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#21
Iron Maiden is basically the band that pops up when someone says Heavy Metal. It does not mean what it says... its not necessarily ridiculously heavy metal, its a genre that is not defined by its name. And I'm sure most people here know that, but since this thread exists, I guess not.
#22
There is no such thing...theres hard rock, thrash metal, speed metal, black metal, death metal, ....who is actually heavy metal?
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#24
children of bodom, metallica, lamb of god, iron maiden?
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#26
Path To Nihil are the true metal band Matty Scott is better than Chris Barnes and James Hetfield will ever be.
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Pantera is Thrash Metal -_-.

Obviously, Iron Maiden IMO.


Iron Maiden is a bit too cheesy for heavy, and contains a lot of Powermetal-ish stuff to be heavy metal...

Black Sabbath and some of Led Zeppys stuff is Heavy metal... More precisely the Original Wave of British Heavy Metal.
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I'd say early stuff, like Motorhead (even though they call themself just Rock n Roll) and AC/DC (same as Motorhead actually), as well as some Deep Purple, lots of Black Sabbath and stuff like that. Early Metallica was definatley Thrash i'd say.

Yeah, its pretty much like classifying a band as "Rock", there are way too many sub-genres so its too hard.
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Iron Maiden is a bit too cheesy for heavy, and contains a lot of Powermetal-ish stuff to be heavy metal...

Black Sabbath and some of Led Zeppys stuff is Heavy metal... More precisely the New Wave of British Heavy Metal.

How could Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin be part of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, when they were the original British Heavy Metal?
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How could Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin be part of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, when they were the original British Heavy Metal?


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+1 if they are nwobhm who was original British Heavy Metal?
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How could Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin be part of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, when they were the original British Heavy Metal?


Not to mention that Led Zeppelin has leanings towards country music and acoustic rock much of the time, so it's not really a great example of a heavy metal band. They're more of a brilliant example of a band that kicks ass in general, and I call Led Zep "rock" so they fit into something but I think they lie outside genres.

Black Sabbath is doom metal, by the way. Accepted as THE heaviest of heavy metal, it's all about crushing, slow brutality. Riffs like the main riff to Sweet Leaf are the best example of doom metal.
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I'd say early stuff, like Motorhead (even though they call themself just Rock n Roll) and AC/DC (same as Motorhead actually), as well as some Deep Purple, lots of Black Sabbath and stuff like that. Early Metallica was definatley Thrash i'd say.

Yeah, its pretty much like classifying a band as "Rock", there are way too many sub-genres so its too hard.


AC/DC is considered hard rock. But in reality they're just a blues band with the drive knob turned a little too high Motörhead is metal but Deep Purple are hard rock aswell. (I think atleast)

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#35
It's when your mother is impaled on a long metal pole.

On second thought, Heavy Metal is a subgenre of the 'umbrella' Metal Genre, which encompasses the original Heavy Metal/NWOBHM and the subsequent evolutions of such. Clear enough?

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#38
you said *no one knows what it actually is*. You are wrong, there are plenty of people that do. You could read the Recommendation Thread in the metal forum, for example, and not make this useless crap.

But if you must, generally traditional heavy metal would be Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Mercyful Fate, Rainbow etc.

It's pretty much impossible to represent metal in one band. If anything, I'd probably show them Opeth's early stuff.

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Not to mention that Led Zeppelin has leanings towards country music and acoustic rock much of the time, so it's not really a great example of a heavy metal band. They're more of a brilliant example of a band that kicks ass in general, and I call Led Zep "rock" so they fit into something but I think they lie outside genres.

Black Sabbath is doom metal, by the way. Accepted as THE heaviest of heavy metal, it's all about crushing, slow brutality. Riffs like the main riff to Sweet Leaf are the best example of doom metal.

Not really, Alice in Chains is a metal band, technically. Despite the fact that they're labeled as grunge, and did two acoustic records. They touched on folk music, especially with III, which I think is their best record. But they are technically a heavy metal band. Jimi Hendrix was technically heavy metal, too, as he is possibly the originator of the term. His sound was described as heavy metal plates falling from the sky.
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Not really, Alice in Chains is a metal band, technically. Despite the fact that they're labeled as grunge, and did two acoustic records. They touched on folk music, especially with III, which I think is their best record. But they are technically a heavy metal band. Jimi Hendrix was technically heavy metal, too, as he is possibly the originator of the term. His sound was described as heavy metal plates falling from the sky.


Hendrix, I think, falls into "proto-metal", which is a term I use to catch Led Zep, Deep Purple, ect.
Hendrix almost falls into blues, but then again you could argue that heavy metal has more in common with the blues than it does with rock (at the beginning, anyway).

Alice In Chains is an extremely heavy band and I supppose they could just about qualify. The thing is that "grunge" is a term applied to 90s rock bands that came from Seattle and the general vicinity. As someone who doesn't listen to a whole lot of grunge I couldn't tell you if it was a philosophy that linked them, but listening to it, grunge does appear to be a very simplified form of metal in some respects - the punky view on simplicity with the musical emphasis on weighty riffs.
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