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I have around a $50 giftcard to guitar center, $295 in cash, and a TS-9 (keeley modded), and Fender Champion 30DSP that I'm going to sell or trade in. I could also sell my TS-9dx. Xmas is also right around the corner. I'm really not sure what to get. Right now I'm a bit unhappy with my overdrive sound.

There are a number of different tones that I am after.
1. Wolfmotheresque (think Woman) type of fuzzy overdrive.
2. David Gilmour lead sound (think Echoes on Live in Pompeii) I'm beginning to think that this tone is impossible to get by everyone except Gilmour himself.
3. Tom Morello/Robin Trower neck single coil crunch.
4. Dead Meadow fuzz, very similar to Wolfmother's sound.
5. Incubus/Nirvana wall of sound distortion (this for the most part I'm happy with as the Big Muff does this well...a Mesa would do it better but they're very very expensive. As you all know)

I've been looking at a number of different things I could buy.

1. Orange Tiny Terror $550
Pros: Both guitarists in Wolfmother and Dead Meadow use Orange
Cons: Would probably use up all my money and I can't use my giftcard at guitar center for it.
2. Fulltone OCD $150
Pros: Great overdrive, wouldn't use up all my money
Cons: Might not have enough gain.
3. ProCo Rat $80
Pros: Gilmourish recomends this over the NYC reissue big muff for Gilmour's lead tone and the guitarist in Dead Meadow uses it.
Cons: Probably won't get all the sounds I want.
4. ISP Noise Supressor $123
Pros: Takes care of my strat's hissing problem
Cons: No controlled feedback :-(
5. Epiphone Dot $400
Pros: Always wanted a semi hollow, Andrew Stockdale plays a es-335 and this is the closest I'm gonna get to getting one.
Cons: I've heard the necks aren't very playable, might not like lots of gain due to its semi hollow body, pickups are epiphone pickups which means I'll have to spend more on upgrading those.
6. Voodoo Labs Micro Vibe $140
Pros: Robin Trower. Jimi Hendrix.
Cons: Do I need one?
7. Orange Rocker 30 Combo $1400
Pros: Its a ****ing Orange.
Cons: I'll have to sell a lot of stuff including my Hot Rod Deluxe, I love its clean sound.
8. Speaker Cab $unknown
Pros: Better speakers than what is in my current amp.
Cons: Might be something to get later on.


If anyone made it through all that do you have any suggestions.
#2
BUY THE ORANGE ROCKER 30! =D

It's what I'd do, atleast.
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#3
Get the Rocker 30. IT's the best option on the list. Getting rid of the deluxe isn't that big of a hit, because the rocker's cleans are pretty good.

If you get the ISP decimator, and want controlled feedback... just shut it off when you need feedback.....

The OCD could do the wall of sound, RATM thing. It's very boomy and big sounding.

The RAT would do all the sounds you mentioned as well.

Sell your stuff privately, forget about trading them into GC, because they'll only give you 20% or so of the new selling price, and that's IF your gear is in really nice condition.
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#4
That would mean I would have to sell my practice amp, main amp, overdrive pedals, a set of texas special pickups, and hopefully get around $300 for xmas. I am actually leaning towards that but its a long shot. What would your second choice be?
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That would mean I would have to sell my practice amp, main amp, overdrive pedals, a set of texas special pickups, and hopefully get around $300 for xmas. I am actually leaning towards that but its a long shot. What would your second choice be?


A traynor YCV40... Or any tube traynor amp. Cleans are just as warm as the hot rod's with better drive channel, Separate eq's for both channels, auto biasaing circuit (not fixed, or cathode though) so you can mix and match power tubes, Metal speaker grille behind the cloth speaker grille.

Maybe get a nice ibanez guitar to round out your guitar rig.

Maybe a whammy pedal?
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Hmmm. I've looked at the Traynors but the drive channel didn't seem amazing or anything, would it be better than an OCD? I am going to get a whammy pedal but I need to be happy with my tone first. I'm not really a fan of Ibanez. I'd either get a tele, epiphone dot or a epiphone casino if I were to get a new guitar.
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Hmmm. I've looked at the Traynors but the drive channel didn't seem amazing or anything, would it be better than an OCD? I am going to get a whammy pedal but I need to be happy with my tone first. I'm not really a fan of Ibanez. I'd either get a tele, epiphone dot or a epiphone casino if I were to get a new guitar.


The ibanez Artcores are very comparable to an epiphone semi hollow.

I've got a clip of my OCD and my traynor on my UG profile. The 2AM clip was done with my traynor's drive channel, and a 1/4 volume boost on the OCD. The YCV40 Crunch clip is just my YCV40's drive channel, with boost.
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A traynor YCV40... Or any tube traynor amp. Cleans are just as warm as the hot rod's with better drive channel, Separate eq's for both channels, auto biasaing circuit (not fixed, or cathode though) so you can mix and match power tubes, Metal speaker grille behind the cloth speaker grille.


This was going to be my suggestion, this or the YCV 50 Blue (more Marshall/Orange-like on the gain). The Fender probably isn't doing it for you in the gain department today, either. If you look used, you could probably pick up a YCV 40 for the money you get selling your Hot Rod and, IMHO, you will have upgraded nicely. You'll also have everything in your original post left over for accessories. For the stuff you're looking to play, I think pedals will be mandatory.
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Hmmm. I'll have to look more into Traynors but I think my plan at the moment is to go with the Rocker30...I change my mind daily though.
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The ibanez Artcores are very comparable to an epiphone semi hollow.

I've got a clip of my OCD and my traynor on my UG profile. The 2AM clip was done with my traynor's drive channel, and a 1/4 volume boost on the OCD. The YCV40 Crunch clip is just my YCV40's drive channel, with boost.


Hey i meant to ask you in the Traynor thread, but on that crunch clip what are your settings at? How loud was the Volume?

That clip just sounds delicious!
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^ It's a matter of taste at that point. The Traynor's a great amp, and about half the cost of the Orange here in the States. So unless you're absolutely dying for Orange tone (which would be understandable), I'd look at the Traynor and/or other options.
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#13
I don't know if its specificly Orange tone I'm after...more like those tones I mentioned I guess. I'm looking at Orange cause two of my favorite overdrive sounds are Dead Meadow and Wolfmother, but if the Traynors will get me that big crunchy overdrive I want I may give them a shot.
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The Rocker 30 would fit you REALLY well!

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#15
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will the Traynors get me as good an overdrive tone as the Orange?


Probably less gainy than the Orange, even if it's the Traynor YCV50 Blue. But it's got a smooth OD tones though.
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Though I wouldn't sya that Orange has a better overdrive. They both have great overdrive, but they have different types of sounds. So neither is better. It's all down to taste.
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Would the Traynor's get the Dead Meadow, Wolfmother sound?


unno about Dead Meadow, but It'll do Wolfmother fine.
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#19
well I think most of Dead Meadow's fuzzy sound is from the rat or the big muff anyways now that I think about it. I'm now leaning towards getting a Traynor, an OCD, and maybe a third guitar if I can scrape the money together.
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well I think most of Dead Meadow's fuzzy sound is from the rat or the big muff anyways now that I think about it. I'm now leaning towards getting a Traynor, an OCD, and maybe a third guitar if I can scrape the money together.


Sounds like a good plan. And you could try using the OCD to boost your Big Muff to get different fuzz sounds which might take away the need for the rat.
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#21
hmmm...I'm going back to the TT (change my mind daily). I just love that Orange sound and I can crank the TT better than I could a Rocker 30. This way I'll have Fender cleans and Orange drive. Does the TT have as much gain at least as the AD series?
#22
Well if you want a david gilmour lead sound, i would suggest a big muff, and then boost it with and overdrive pedal like a ts9 which you already have, and with your ehx deluxe memory man your tone will be close, im doing this rigth now with my Vox AC30CC and its sound really close( its a little more the wall sounding than the other previuos alblums)
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Quote by thebrewfan
hmmm...I'm going back to the TT (change my mind daily). I just love that Orange sound and I can crank the TT better than I could a Rocker 30. This way I'll have Fender cleans and Orange drive. Does the TT have as much gain at least as the AD series?


Yea they even have more gain than the AD, but less than the Rockers. Your idea does sound good.
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