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FLCLcowdude
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#1
Okie, so will someone give me their personal opinion of the Mesa Dual Rec vs The Dual Rec Road King. Because the Road King is so complex, does it give out an inferior tone? Because I have a JVM410 that I am gonna ditch because I am really disappointed in it. And BTW, please no "Mesa sukz d00d." Because that isn't what I started this thread for.
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MatrixClaw
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#2
Ummm... the Roadking completely KILLS the Dual Recto.

MESAExplorer has one, I'd suggest you talk to him.

Also look into a Mark IV as well!
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Just to clear one thing up: The Road King IS part of the Rectifier series. Dual Rectifier Road King vs. Dual Rectifier Solo head.

K. But yeah the Road King is literally the same exact thing as the Dual Recto Solo head (meaning they can sound exactly the same) but it has TONS more features. Also check into the Roadster as well.
FLCLcowdude
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#5
I am most likely just gonna buy a Dual Rec Solo Head, because I can't afford the Road King. Thanks for everyones help!
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kurdtkobaign
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#6
If you cant afford the RK like I said check out the Roadster. WAY better than the Solo head. Or maybe try to find a MarkIV. They rock. I got sick of my Triple Recto really fast.
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#7
get one of the other mesas mentioned, really the dual recto(std or whatever) is a pretty lame amp when it comes down to it, and the sound very overdone
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#8
Quote by latinosuperstud
get one of the other mesas mentioned, really the dual recto(std or whatever) is a pretty lame amp when it comes down to it, and the sound very overdone

Exactly.

Well, Idk, if youre into that sound then obviously its a great amp. Very well built, powerful...etc. BUT versatility is not its strong point. After my musical style shifted away from hard heavy rock I found myself trying to get it to sound like an old Marshall or most of all an Orange amp. Then one day I was like...WTF AM I DOING?! WHY DONT I JUST GET AN ORANGE AMP RATHER THAN TRYING TO GET THIS ONE TO SOUND DIFFERENT!?

If youre NOT in a band and gigging regularly then I would suggest to find a different amp. After I left my band I got tired of my Triple Recto VERY fast.
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#9
Oh, Children....

Bashing someone elses $1700 investment isn't very nice! To each his own. I believe the Dual Rectifier is superior to many amps out there. Rather it be the RK or not. If you can't dial a good tone out of a Mesa (any Mesa), you must be doing it wrong.

...or maybe learn how to actually play the guitar? In the end, no matter what the amp, IF you can play, then you can make it sound great.
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Oh, Children....

Bashing someone elses $1700 investment isn't very nice! To each his own. I believe the Dual Rectifier is superior to many amps out there. Rather it be the RK or not. If you can't dial a good tone out of a Mesa (any Mesa), you must be doing it wrong.

...or maybe learn how to actually play the guitar? In the end, no matter what the amp, IF you can play, then you can make it sound great.


Meh?

The only Rectifiers I've ever had any luck with are the Rectoverbs, Roadsters and Road Kings. The other rectifiers are lacking something when I play through them. I've set up many for other guitarists and they sound great through them, just not me. I got the Roadster simply because it didn't instantly have that buzzy Recto sound...I usually keep my fourth channel locked in on a medium gain vintage setting, which is an amazing tone. Your best bet would be to try out all of the different models and see what you like.
FLCLcowdude
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#11
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Meh?

The only Rectifiers I've ever had any luck with are the Rectoverbs, Roadsters and Road Kings. The other rectifiers are lacking something when I play through them. I've set up many for other guitarists and they sound great through them, just not me. I got the Roadster simply because it didn't instantly have that buzzy Recto sound...I usually keep my fourth channel locked in on a medium gain vintage setting, which is an amazing tone. Your best bet would be to try out all of the different models and see what you like.


That seems like the best advice. There is a Mesa Dealer here in Atlanta that carries the entire line of mesa stuff. So I am most likely gonna go there tomorrow to find something that I like... I will keep you guys posted on what I find...
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#12
i saw a demo of the road king on youtube last night and i was AMAZED at how versatile it was. the dude was playing a strat and went from crystal clear, to SRV overdrivish to a near flawless ac/dc tone then some vintage distortion sounds to some awesome metal stuff.
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#13
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Just to clear one thing up: The Road King IS part of the Rectifier series. Dual Rectifier Road King vs. Dual Rectifier Solo head.

K. But yeah the Road King is literally the same exact thing as the Dual Recto Solo head (meaning they can sound exactly the same) but it has TONS more features. Also check into the Roadster as well.


I find the roadking to be more similar to a Mark than a Recto. The Rectos do have a bit more intense of a modern setting but all that intensity comes down to a huge lack of versatility. The cleans on a normal recto are meh, the overdrives are a bit shrill and harsh, the main distortion lacks liquidity.

For the most part the Roadking can do everything the Rectos can do, but the recto can only do like 2 things the roadkings do.

For the price of mine ($1,700 used) I don't know why anyone would buy a new recto over a used roadking. These amps are so versatile, to be honest, you could own 2 of them and it woudln't be redundant at all.
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FLCLcowdude
Road King
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#14
So, I went to the music store today, and I was blown away by the Mesa Road King. It was everything that I wanted, or needed. I just now need to figure out how I am gonna get it...
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FLCLcowdude
Road King
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#16
^^^
Most defiantly an option. Plus I am willing to trade a JVM410 and a Marshall 425A speaker cabinet.
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#17
how much you looking to get for the jvm? pretty new, so you should definitely get more than half the amount of a used road king
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#18
Wait for a roadking to come up used for a good price and sell the JVM. I personally wouldn't sell the Vintage modern cab cos you could AB the two cabs. If the Roadking is anything like the Roadster i tried you will not be dissapointed. Absolute beasts.
FLCLcowdude
Road King
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#19
Yeah. Hell, the JVM is almost new. I have the original box, and the warranty card. The instructions too. Someone could repack it and call it new... If anyone in the Atlanta area wants to give me 1450 cash upfront for it, OBO, they can take it.
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#20
Dont sell your JVM. Just upgrade the tubes and you will be happy. I did and Its miles better.
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FLCLcowdude
Road King
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#21
Man, I hate the JVM. It just doesn't do what I want it to. Plus, it has ****ty construction. Just take off one of the knobs to find a plastic pot, with no locking nut. What the hell kind of construction is that? Thanks, but it is going to a new home...
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#22
If you're fast on the trigger on ebay you can pick up roadkings for $1,700 or so. They're never on there for more than an hour though.

I was so close to getting a Roadking head and cab for $1,700. By the time I got logged on it was sold. An hour later A roadking popped up for $1,800 or best offer. I offered $1,700 and got it.
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If you're fast on the trigger on ebay you can pick up roadkings for $1,700 or so. They're never on there for more than an hour though.

I was so close to getting a Roadking head and cab for $1,700. By the time I got logged on it was sold. An hour later A roadking popped up for $1,800 or best offer. I offered $1,700 and got it.



What kind of road king do you have? Series 1 or 2?
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Series 1.

The cleans on the series 1 are good, not lonestar good or F-100 good, but they're really good. I honestly don't believe someone who is buying a roadking would complain about the cleans anyway. The amps gain channels are definatly worth $1,700.
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FLCLcowdude
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#26
Yeah, I really think that I am gonna use it. I am just gonna try to spring for a series II road king. Wish me luck...
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#27
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the rk dominates the rec. If you don't want to spend THAT much more, look into the Roadster as well.


+1

the roadking II has lonestar cleans which own the DR
the roadster has them too, and is a stripped down RKII
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#28
Quote by MESAexplorer
Series 1.

The cleans on the series 1 are good, not lonestar good or F-100 good, but they're really good. I honestly don't believe someone who is buying a roadking would complain about the cleans anyway. The amps gain channels are definatly worth $1,700.



wats diff between series 1 n 2?
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Series 2 has improved cleans and reverb (taken from the lonestar), different effect loops (series 1 has a series and a parallel. series 2 has two of one of them , but I don't know which), and they have a slightly different organization of he rear panel knobs I believe, even though they have the same ones.
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#30
how much does series 2 go for
on ebay
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FLCLcowdude
Road King
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#31
Sorry man, ain't gonna find one on ebay! People hang onto series 2 road kings...
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#32
sigh...i guess il just go to FLCL's house and take his ****...
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#33
FLCL I sent you a PM brah.
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#34
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Road King
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#35
Oh, okie!
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Brahhhhhhhhh


Wassup wassup brah?

Screw it =\, I'll just ask you what I Pm'd you in here, I am too anxious. Could you add me on MSN; X.trent.X@hotmail.com I realllly need to talk to you about the RK
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#37
Quote by Rockstar12345
how much does series 2 go for
on ebay


Roughly $2,200.

Depends on how quick they wanna sell it.
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#38
Quote by MESAexplorer
Roughly $2,200.

Depends on how quick they wanna sell it.



godammit. how much u think i can sell a 06 recty for at GC?
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#39
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godammit. how much u think i can sell a 06 recty for at GC?


Single, Dual, Triple, Roadking, Roadster ????

Single- $800-$1,200

Dual- $1,000- $1,400

Triple- $1,000- $1,600

Roadster- $1,400- $1,600

Roadking varies by age....
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Quote by MESAexplorer
Single, Dual, Triple, Roadking, Roadster ????

Single- $800-$1,200

Dual- $1,000- $1,400

Triple- $1,000- $1,600

Roadster- $1,400- $1,600

Roadking varies by age....



so how do u think i can get the best deal for a dual recty outside of GC?
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