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I'm going to be as straight to the point as possible. My band rented a practice area from this music store's warehouse last year. We moved out in July, but apparently no one told him we were moving out.

Well he called me last week saying we owe him $1600. He said the lock was still on the door, and that he lost the possible business of renting it out (though he had a key the whole time)

We never signed a contract. Does he have legal grounds to get our money/take us to court? We are willing to offer him a bit, but we can't afford 1600. I know we suck for not telling him, but are we obligated legally to pay him? Btw this is the first time he contacted us since like June.
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So now, in addition to all being doctors, UG are qualified paralegals?


I don't know, you didn't tell him. He may have some justified reason for going to court for that.
#3
and he didn't notice for 5 months that the practice space was unused? NEVER checked it?

he's an idiot, you don't owe him sh!t...

that being said, the court system is ****ed
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you moved out, he had a key, he's an oblivious jackass... i'd say you're probably good
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So now, in addition to all being doctors, UG are qualified paralegals?


Lol this isn't my only source of help. Just looking wherever I can, which might be silly I'll admit.
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So now, in addition to all being doctors, UG are qualified paralegals?


I don't know, you didn't tell him. He may have some justified reason for going to court for that.


Not only that, but we can all perform marriage cermonies in the state of Georgia.

TS, did you hand him the keys to the practioce space when you vacated?
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THis looks like a case for Judge Judy. That bitch will help ya.
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Not only that, but we can all perform marriage cermonies in the state of Georgia.

TS, did you hand him the keys to the practioce space when you vacated?



No, but he had a copy of the key. Could this have an effect?
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So now, in addition to all being doctors, UG are qualified paralegals? for that.

that would be a good sig. lol
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I wasn't quite clear. It was padlock type thing we supplied ourselves. So without it, the door has no lock.
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So now, in addition to all being doctors, UG are qualified paralegals?

At least one UGer is a Bar-admitted attorney

You had NO contract? Well, that's interesting. By keeping your padlock on the gate, you signified that you still had control over the area. When did you stop paying him? At no point between then and now did he contact you regarding your occupancy or payment? You may be liable for something, but it seems like his management of the property and his failure to attempt to contact you when you didn't pay on a monthly basis are poor management on his part, and could thusly reduce your liability.

But yeah, expect to get sued.
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even though you didnt sign a contract, and agreement was made, a valid offer was made with a valid acceptance, the courts may try to pull that one on you, but since soemthing as renting out a space wasn't put into contract form and he didn't state how much you owe per rent payment. He can't do anything, the space wasn't used. so he can't charge you for rent since no electricity was used, and he had a key the whole time. He might try to bring it to small claims court, but the court can't do much about it, just settle out of court, pay the guy a hundred bucks and say sorry.
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due dilligence man. you should have told him. but then again that might go against him since he should've checked up on you. and even if you're a minor it doesn't matter since the space you rented out doesn't fall under "necessity" and all that other good stuff.
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^ Due diligence has more to do with fiduciary relationships.
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even though you didnt sign a contract, and agreement was made, a valid offer was made with a valid acceptance, the courts may try to pull that one on you, but since soemthing as renting out a space wasn't put into contract form and he didn't state how much you owe per rent payment. He can't do anything, the space wasn't used. so he can't charge you for rent since no electricity was used, and he had a key the whole time. He might try to bring it to small claims court, but the court can't do much about it, just settle out of court, pay the guy a hundred bucks and say sorry.

Actual use is not as relevant as you seem to think. If you rent an apartment and you never move in, as long as you exert control over it, you're liable. He exerted control by keeping a lock on the door. But the landowner had constructive notice of the premises being vacated by lack of payment.
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No, but he had a copy of the key. Could this have an effect?

Yes.

That's like selling your house and keeping keys to all the locks.
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lawyer up and **** that lil **** sucker over...tell him he told all his friends and sue him for defemation of character and get all his ****ing money
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#21
the fact that there's no signed contract could be a big help to you, so you can probably just ignore him. There may be a basic tenancy contract in your state which may stipulate a minimum term of 12 months or so requiring notice before quitting the premises, if so you could be boned.
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