#1
I am having trouble understanding scales and modes and such. I am kind of getting it, but i am missing what to play them with and how to know what belongs and other stuff. Some one please help.
#2
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#3
don't get too worried about not getting it all right now. studying scales and modes takes time and effort. get a real book, don't depend on the internet.
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e|-|-O-|---|---|-o-|---|
B|-|-o-|---|---|-o-|---|
G|-|-o-|---|-o-|---|---|
D|-|-o-|---|-O-|---|---|
A|-|-o-|---|-o-|---|---|
E|-|-O-|---|---|-o-|---|


Start on the second fret, and go down the bored. The "O's" are just root notes, also, don't play it like a chord. Each bar represents a fret.

So it's like:

|------------------2-5
|---------------2-5
|------------2-4
|---------2-4
|-----2-4
|2-5-
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#6
Different notes in the major scale are different root notes for modes.

For example, G Major is Ionian. G Major starting on A is the Dorian mode. If you find a dorian mode shape, or...

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Using that, you play the dorian mode over certain chords to get a different kind of feel. Each mode is essentially a scale. Think of it this way... the Aeolian mode is just a minor scale. G Major = E Minor, but when you start on a different root note you get a different feel. And, each mode goes better over certain chord types. You'll be able to look that up on google, though. :P
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e|-|-O-|---|---|-o-|---|
B|-|-o-|---|---|-o-|---|
G|-|-o-|---|-o-|---|---|
D|-|-o-|---|-O-|---|---|
A|-|-o-|---|-o-|---|---|
E|-|-O-|---|---|-o-|---|


Start on the second fret, and go down the bored. The "O's" are just root notes, also, don't play it like a chord. Each bar represents a fret.

So it's like:

|------------------2-5
|---------------2-5
|------------2-4
|---------2-4
|-----2-4
|2-5-



Um what? I don't think this relates to what he's asking...
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Um what? I don't think this relates to what he's asking...




I thought he was asking how to understand scales. I must have misunderstood him, my bad.
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#9
Modes have the same notes as their relative major scales, just a different root note. Like this

Ionian - Major Scale
Dorian - same notes as the relative major scale, root on the second of the scale
Phrygian - Root on the third of major scale
Lydian - Root on 4
Mixolydian - Root on 5
Aeolian - Root on 6
Locrian - Root on 7.


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#10
No no, he's asking HOW to use the scale.. Once you know a scale, it doesn't mean you can say hey, I need to play this little riff that starts with a Major second over a m7sus4. You need to learn that somewhere, and what better place to learn than UG?
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#11
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e|-|-O-|---|---|-o-|---|
B|-|-o-|---|---|-o-|---|
G|-|-o-|---|-o-|---|---|
D|-|-o-|---|-O-|---|---|
A|-|-o-|---|-o-|---|---|
E|-|-O-|---|---|-o-|---|


Start on the second fret, and go down the bored. The "O's" are just root notes, also, don't play it like a chord. Each bar represents a fret.

So it's like:

|------------------2-5
|---------------2-5
|------------2-4
|---------2-4
|-----2-4
|2-5-


lol, i know how to play F# minor pentatonic thank you.
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#12
You can't learn modes until you know the major scale, and you can't learn the major scale until you know the notes on the fretboard.

So....

First step - learn the notes on the fretboard, there's no point trying to learn a language if you don't know the alphabet.

Second step - learn the major scale, all over the fretboard, in all keys. If you do this PROPERLY, by learning the notes and intervals the scale contains as opposed to tabs, boxes or fingering patterns, then it will be a LOT easier. The major scale alone contains a lifetime of study, but I'd definitely recommend spending a couple of months exploring it before moving onto pentatonics, the minor scale and eventually modes.

What you can't do is learn it all at once, it simply isn't possible. Yes, you can learn a load of random boxes and fingering patterns but in the long run that TEACHES you sod all. Start at the beginning and work your way through methodically then everything you do learn will sink in properly and you'll actually be able to make good use of what you've learned.
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#13
I like to do it like this:

The major scale consists of 7 notes. Each note is a new "starting point" within the major scale. SO, if I am playing in the beautiful key of Gmajor my first step will be called Ionian. If I move up to the nxt "box" in the same key, that note will be the beginning of a new mode called Dorian. So Doran is still in the key of Gmajor, but it's a different mode within that scale. Etc.

This way of doing it is just what I prefer, I know a lot of people that does it differently, but they are also more confused when making music and trying to combine scales.
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#14
I am getting confused? I just dont know about all the base notes, i can read whats written and play it, i just dont get what like chords to play each with, does each scale go to each note like the minor pentatonic scale (i know and can use that one) i dunno
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I am getting confused? I just dont know about all the base notes, i can read whats written and play it, i just dont get what like chords to play each with, does each scale go to each note like the minor pentatonic scale (i know and can use that one) i dunno
???????????

Exactly, and that's why you have to start at the beginning.

Learn the notes first, then learn the major scale.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/general_music/the_crusade_part_4_scales.html
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