#1
(does this belong in musician talk?)

i want to learn piano, but i dont know how hard its going to be for me to learn... there is really noone around here to teach me, so i may teach myself, or have a friend help me with it...
anyone play piano?... got advice?
#3
no i dont play piano, however i have attempted to several times. Being a guitarist, i find it really hard to make my hands independent of each other. But i think i can do it if i had the time and patience.
#4
How would a person with only 5 fingers on each hand play something with that many hands<< lol keys. Same ****ing thing.??
#5
I wanna learn how to play piano too.

Learn Music Theory, that'll help ALOT.

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#6
It depends on what you want to learn. If you want to learn contemporary pop style piano, you can learn it by yourself. If you want to learn classical or jazz piano, study with a teacher.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#7
I don't know.

I taught my self, and it's not that hard. If you know the keys, and have a basic understanding of how to read music it's really easy. I practice off and on, and I'm not bad.
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How would a person with only 5 fingers on each hand play something with that many hands<< lol keys. Same ****ing thing.??


huh? i dont get it...
#9
I learned piano when I was like 4..
and HATED it.. so I quitted.. but
then, I tried it again, and liked
it but wasn't willing to pay lessons
for that (I was still paying my guitar by then)
so, I think it is not that hard,
at the beggining. and you
have to really love it--- well, it didn't
work for me, but maybe it will for you

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#10
my mum teaches piano. it really is best to get lessons, but tis possible to teach yourself. it's not that hard, i don't think, but i've been around pianos all my life, so i can't really say. it's apparently not that easy, but i wouldn't know.

it really is a beautiful instrument, though. good luck with it.
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yeah,, prolly jazz.. i wanna be good.

If you want to learn jazz, at least get a teacher/tutor for music theory with an emphasis on jazz harmonic structures. Many jazz pianists don't actually have the best physical techniques or postures, but that is because they don't need it.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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If you wannabe good , get lessons. I'm good enough to show off, and jam, and write songs with guitar and such, but I'm by no means a good player.
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How would a person with only 5 fingers on each hand play something with that many hands<< lol keys. Same ****ing thing.??

How would a person with only five fingers on one hand play something with that many frets?

...modes and scales are still useless.


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Buy some books.

I used the 4 in the "Complete keyboard player" series. They pretty much taught me how to read music when I was a kid, and how to play to a certain level.
Now I just play songs for the fun of it, and get better on my own.

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#17
Few people get really good unless they start in their early teens at latest. Still, never too late to learn some pieces you like. But I wouldn't get my hopes up for improvising jazz, unless you're going to set the bar quite low.

The best you can if you want to be self-taught is to learn to read notes - slowly at first. Then find the notation for a piece you like, read the notes and learn the piece (slowly), and eventually you'll know how to play all of it, and hopefully learned some things on the way. You should, of course, start by trying to find some easy pieces.
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#18
I play piano/keyboards in my band.

If you're looking for chords and whatnot, it'll be easy.

But if you're trying to do Tchaikovsky or something, it'll get difficult.
#19
My AP Music Theory teacher told me that I should probably start taking piano lessons, as a great deal of college music programs require you to take lessons anyway. But as for helping you with piano, I can't help you much there. All I can say is that if you want to teach yourself, learn to read both treble and bass clefs, learn at least rudimentary theory, and learn the pattern of notes on the keyboard. Then, learn songs. Alternatively, you could get a book on it, as there are quite a few.

EDIT: Wait, you want to learn jazz!? Although many jazz pianists (Monk was a good example) were self-taught, almost all jazz pianists, scratch that, nearly all jazz musicians these days have had years of formal instruction. I started to teach myself jazz guitar a month or two ago, and it's really, really tough. I'm trying to find a teacher right now, actually. Anyway, to sum it up, get lessons if you want to play jazz, or, alternatively, classical.
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Still, never too late to learn some pieces you like. But I wouldn't get my hopes up for improvising jazz, unless you're going to set the bar quite low.

That is not true. Wes Montgomery started learning the guitar in his early 20s, and he ended up being the icon of jazz guitar.

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#21
Don't learn by yourself. This could easily happen:

Impractical and bad technique

Trying to learn music that is too skilled can cause problms.

If you are serious about it, I recommend a competent teacher.
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That is not true. Wes Montgomery started learning the guitar in his early 20s, and he ended up being the icon of jazz guitar.

That's guitar, not piano. Anyhow, I'm just stating unofficial statistics.
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That is not true. Wes Montgomery started learning the guitar in his early 20s, and he ended up being the icon of jazz guitar.
Although that is basically true (I thought it was 19), the Jazz piano is more difficult to improvise on. I rarely hear Jazz guitarists improvising more than single lines during solos. The piano is a much more demanding instrument. I don't think Montgomery's improvisation skills were quite as remarkable as Thelonious Monk's.
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That's guitar, not piano. Anyhow, I'm just stating unofficial statistics.

Regardless, jazz isn't strict in its technical rigor.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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\I don't think Montgomery's improvisation skills were quite as remarkable as Thelonious Monk's.

That isn't a quantifiable measure of skills.

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Although that is basically true (I thought it was 19), the Jazz piano is more difficult to improvise on. I rarely hear Jazz guitarists improvising more than single lines during solos. The piano is a much more demanding instrument. I don't think Montgomery's improvisation skills were quite as remarkable as Thelonious Monk's.


I'm not sure about that. Montgomery's improv skills were legendary, as were Monk's. They were both self-taught, too.
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That isn't a quantifiable measure of skills.
Love can't be quantified. I guess that means Paul McCartney loved M&M's as much as he did Linda McCartney.

Mozart once improvised a classical piece on an organ for someone. But then again, Mozart (a child prodigy) wasn't much better of an improviser than a 14-year-old guitarist who can improvise pentatonic single lines on his Epiphone.