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#1
Ok firstly I KNOW there are QUITE a few people around (here and everywhere) that think that band tees are stupid,pointless ect ect ... keeping that in mind... LOL

Would you buy FAKE band tees... ??

Personally I dont own any band tees ... but here in singapore they sell LOADS of fake band tees at really (and I MEAN REALLY) cheap prices. .. . You can get 3 band tees for a total of $10 sgd which would be the equivalent of $6.89 US dollars.

And the majority of people here are buying fake band tees because Originals cost a CRAZY amount here...

so would you buy fake band tees... (they are decent quality ...)
#2
get them. i have over 20 of them at home and they look just as good as the originals.
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#3
Fake? How can you tell if its fake?
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#4
I went to see Avenged Sevenfold last week and really wanted a tshirt. Inside the official ones were £18. I couldn't afford it. Outside i got one which looks exactly the same for £5.

I WANTED to buy the original but £18 is just ridiculously expensive. Its the same reason that people download/copy CDs. If the tshirt was say, £10 i would have got the original. They shouldn't be so greedy.
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Fake? How can you tell if its fake?

well you can usually tell by the printing like the printing is not as real and it looks differnt and normally the logo's like stuffed up or somthing
#7
Even the originals are just printed onto a really cheap plain t shirt. The crappy ones are done in a similar fashion, maybe a slightly ****ter no make tee and maybe the print is slightly **** in quality but that's the only difference.
#9
Band tees arn't the most expensive.

Clothes like quiksilver are expensive, i saw a plain quiksilver t-shirt the other day for $50 AU
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I went to see Avenged Sevenfold last week and really wanted a tshirt. Inside the official ones were £18. I couldn't afford it. Outside i got one which looks exactly the same for £5.

I WANTED to buy the original but £18 is just ridiculously expensive. Its the same reason that people download/copy CDs. If the tshirt was say, £10 i would have got the original. They shouldn't be so greedy.


Bands make the majority of their cash from merchandise at gigs. You paying cheaper to someone that is completely unrelated to the band apart from the fact that that band is playing that night is sending your money to people who are too lazy to get proper jobs.
If you think 18 pounds is ridiculous, then you obviously arent a dedicated fan. Factor in the costs of getting the design, paying the manufacturers of the shirts, fee's that the venue's incur on the products (which is alot), adds to the cost.

On-topic, no, I never buy fakes, I only buy band merch when I see them.
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#11
Yeah im from singapore too. fake band tshirts are always so uncomfortable..
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#13
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Band tees arn't the most expensive.

Clothes like quiksilver are expensive, i saw a plain quiksilver t-shirt the other day for $50 AU

lol I wont buy a shirt for over $40
#14
I've never bought a band Tee shirt at a gig because they're so damned expensive. I've bought the odd fake poster from outside the venue.

I don't know where I stand on the issue, official merch helps a band out a lot money wise (a lot more important for your smaller scale acts), but fake Tee's are often hardly distinguishable from the official article, cost a lot less, and you're supporting your band by wearing it in public.
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lol I wont buy a shirt for over $40

Same, i always buy shirts that are $5 - $20
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Band tees arn't the most expensive.

Clothes like quiksilver are expensive, i saw a plain quiksilver t-shirt the other day for $50 AU

I spend £30 on an Oakley tee nearly every time I go shopping. Brand slagism, yes.
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Band tees arn't the most expensive.

Clothes like quiksilver are expensive, i saw a plain quiksilver t-shirt the other day for $50 AU



You joking?
Go to General Pants.. Tsubi shirts are about $120 AUS each!
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#18
my wardrobe is pretty much made up of fake band tee's.
wearing your heart on your sleeve, (literally, well not literally, but yeah)

alot cheaper than the real ones. and heaps easier to get seeing as i can only get them at their gigs.
#19
I'll buy official band stuff if it costs £10-15 (about US$20-30). But when t-shirts cost £30 each ($60...), I'll pay the fiver for one that looks the same and lasts as long but doesn't support the band.
Economics, really.
#20
I just bought a Pink Floyd shirt yesterday, It is fake but no one else can tell.
I think the fake ones are better, same thing for like $20 less.
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#21
There's some fantastic shops in Paddys Markets in Sydney CBD, the best fakes I've ever seen for about 20 bucks each. I'd buy from there anyday.
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Of course.The real tees are heaps expensive,they can get up to $30 AUD here.

Dude at the MCR concert in sydney there was a t-shirt selling for 79.99..... ****ing ripoff
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Bands make the majority of their cash from merchandise at gigs. You paying cheaper to someone that is completely unrelated to the band apart from the fact that that band is playing that night is sending your money to people who are too lazy to get proper jobs.
If you think 18 pounds is ridiculous, then you obviously arent a dedicated fan. Factor in the costs of getting the design, paying the manufacturers of the shirts, fee's that the venue's incur on the products (which is alot), adds to the cost.

On-topic, no, I never buy fakes, I only buy band merch when I see them.


I'm in a band myself so i know all about the costs involved. We buy get our tshirts made for £3.40 which means we can sell them for £5 or £6 at most of our gigs. We only buy them 50 at a time. If we bought a higer quantity as i'm sure Avenged do then they could probably cost as little as £2.80. So it costs them lets say £3 per shirt and they sell them for £18 - £15 profit on each shirt. That is excessive.

Like i said, I would rather support the band but that much is just ridiculous.

Anyway in my own way I am supporting the band even if I'm wearing a fake - its advertising for them! The same way that some bands encourage people to download their music for free, because it gains them exposure!


p.s. I hardly think there would have been a lot of design costs for the tshirt i got!
#25
I thought you meant tees of fake bands, so I could fool my friends be like, "do you enjoy so and so band?"
They'd reply, "I'm going to see them in August!"
I'd say, "You dick! They died last week in a tragic accident involving cocaine, silent rag-time porn, and spanish hookers!"

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#27
to be honest, sometimes i go look at the merch stand and don't see anything I actually like, then someone outside will be selling fake ones that I do like, so sometimes I buy the fake one.

If they look/feel really awful I don't bother.
#28
There are lots of band t-shirts at Camden Market in London. Around, £5. Doesn't bother me.
#29
people make me laugh.'oh, i don't buy records, the band doesn't actually make that much from them anyway'. you do realised that selling merch at shows is actually one of the better earners for small bands, right? stop being jerks.
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There's some fantastic shops in Paddys Markets in Sydney CBD, the best fakes I've ever seen for about 20 bucks each. I'd buy from there anyday.


I bought a fake RATM tee from there, but only because I couldn't be fucked ordering one off the net. Once i had the chance to buy a genuine one at Big Day Out i bought it.
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#32
I usually buy official but i have a couple of fakes. I brought a trivium concert shirt for £20 and i really didnt care about paying that price. As for the fakes, one was a gift and it looks awesome and the other i brought on holiday in Gran Canaria. It thought it just looked cool and also it would be like £5 here so i thought why the hell not.
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#34
Counterfeit items wouldn't exist if the originals were priced reasonably. There is absolutely NO difference between a counterfeit t-shirt and an original except who manufactured it. And the only reason the originals cost so much is because are actually stupid enough to buy them.

Don't feel guilty about buying counterfeit because if the counterfeit market was really hurting the manufacturers of the original they would lower their prices to compete. The profit margin on those t-shirts is insane.

Simple math time:

$6.98 for 3 counterfeits ? So let's assume $6 for 3 with a $0.50 / shirt profit margin. $6 / 3 = $2 - $0.50 - $1.50 for the raw materials. Now we have to factor in licensing / royalty costs so lets call it $4 / t-shirt for the originals. And the originals are selling for like $30. So they're making $26 PROFIT on each t-shirt. That's about a 650% profit margin.
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I thought you meant tees of fake bands, so I could fool my friends be like, "do you enjoy so and so band?"
They'd reply, "I'm going to see them in August!"
I'd say, "You dick! They died last week in a tragic accident involving cocaine, silent rag-time porn, and spanish hookers!"

Don't laugh, silent rag-time porn addiction is a serious problem!
#36
I went and saw My Chemical Romance in Melbourne late last year and the 'official' shirts were really dear and I had little to nothing money on me to buy them.

Then after the show there was a guy out the front selling them for half price. They looked, felt, smelt, tasted and sounded like the original ones... until I washed mine and the writing came off the back of it.

I was really annoyed.
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Quote by jimmywc
I went to see Avenged Sevenfold last week and really wanted a tshirt. Inside the official ones were £18. I couldn't afford it. Outside i got one which looks exactly the same for £5.

I WANTED to buy the original but £18 is just ridiculously expensive. Its the same reason that people download/copy CDs. If the tshirt was say, £10 i would have got the original. They shouldn't be so greedy.


Good luck after thats been washed a few times. I made the mistake of buying a shirt from outside a gig once and the pattern washes off in a matter of weeks.
#39
I got a Metallica, Justice shirt a few years ago. It's basically a black short sleeve with the album art on front, and on the back are drawings of the band members, and a hammer with the caption (hammer of justice crushes you).

I'll wear it with a dark unbuttoned dress shirt, sometimes.. ..Though I like how it somehow gives the illusion that I have muscles. ..I hate being in good shape and not having any muscle mass to actually show it. ..Whatever, I like the shirt.
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Quote by jimmywc
I'm in a band myself so i know all about the costs involved. We buy get our tshirts made for £3.40 which means we can sell them for £5 or £6 at most of our gigs. We only buy them 50 at a time. If we bought a higer quantity as i'm sure Avenged do then they could probably cost as little as £2.80. So it costs them lets say £3 per shirt and they sell them for £18 - £15 profit on each shirt. That is excessive.

Like i said, I would rather support the band but that much is just ridiculous.

Anyway in my own way I am supporting the band even if I'm wearing a fake - its advertising for them! The same way that some bands encourage people to download their music for free, because it gains them exposure!


You selling merch at local gigs and bands selling merch at arena's are two very different things.
Ever bought a coke at an arena? 300 ml cokes cost upwards of $4.00, 200% the price of a normal can of coke. The same goes for most other services these places provide. Factor that in, most shirts I buy are $45, jumpers and shorts $90, posters $10-$15, then other smaller things like wrist bands and badges.
Cut the prices of all of these in half, things are looking more realistic. Factor in the cost of producing these and buying them, shirts are under $20. A percentage of this goes to the record company, the rest is split between the band members.
This is all hypothetical, but you should see the point. Despite the costs, bands are still getting much less than you think. Look at the grand scheme of things.
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