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I know this has been done before, but I thought it would be an idea to have a thread for actual discussion of the whole Anonymous/Scientology thing.
It might turn into a bit of an essay here, but please at least read before you close it.

For those of you who don't know what I'm on about;


What do you think?
Are Anonymous fighting a real war here or are the chans just getting above themselves in their search for popularity?
Is it just too much propaganda and not enough action?
Given that Anonymous claim to be fighting for "free speech", should we be allowing Scientology to have free speech and continue what they are doing?

Personally, I can't stand Scientology - their founder wrote science fiction before starting his religion (which wasn't a religion until the taxman came along), they demand money for "enlightenment" and then feed people stories about aliens. Would you trust them? But I can't help but feel that maybe Anonymous are just fishing for some publicity - they can shout all they want, but will it make a difference? So far, it's funny but I'm waiting for the 10th of February to prove me wrong.

(On second thoughts, please don't close this. I've wasted too much of my life writing it)
#2
It's nerds gone wild. Anything could happen but more than likely will not.
#3
Would be quite interesting to see 100s of anons all turn up at the Scientology HQ, and burn the **** out of it imo.
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Seriously, wtf is 4chan? Can someone please enlighten me.


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#6
Personally i'm all for it. Scientology seems to silence its critics through bullying and lawbreaking, and they cant bully the internet
Although Encyclopedia Dramatica seems to be down
I'm sure anonymous has just as little respect for laws, decency and respect as the CoS does so they deserve each other in an odd way.
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#7
I'd help with IRL raids except for a distinct lack of a CoS around me.

Good ol' Southern Baptists have been holding them off for a while now.
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Seriously, wtf is 4chan? Can someone please enlighten me.


It's an image board. With no rules. There might be funny pictures, or child pornography.


This whole thing is a load of bollocks.
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It's an image board. With no rules. There might be funny pictures, or child pornography.


This whole thing is a load of bollocks.


Actually they do have one rule. Which is no child pornography :P.

Anonymous aren't trying to physically take down CoS by themselves, just raise awareness about its crimes before it escalates into a major religion like Christianity or Islam. They all started ou the same way, crime, extortion and theft in order to spread their influence to gain further money and power. The last thing we need is another one of those.
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Imagine the Pit if it was an imageboard with hardly any rules and everyone is about a million times more retarded.


Thank you, I've always wondered, sounds pointless though.
#11
Scientology's a big heap of ****! Thank **** they aint over this side of the pond.
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England? They're over here, they're just not accepted as a religion by the government...
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England? ****, wont be long till they're up here, b*st*rds.

I cant see them making it past Edinburgh, rough place, rough.
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#16
How many more threads will there be on this?
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How many more threads will there be on this?


7, maybe 8.

lol @ forbidden planet
#21
As much as I hate scientology, I think this is wrong. Sure picketing and things are fine, its a right defined by our constitution, but anonymous said they wanted to destroy scientology. I know this seems harmless now, but I can see scientologists going the way of scapegoats, and then we will have the lolocaust all over again...
#22
There's only so much they can do...

Let's say, hypothetically, Anon goes through with this, detroys a few CoS buildings...starts a few fires...

CoS could (and would) have them rebuilt right away.

There is too much money behind them to stop them at the moment...a lot of fame and power as well.

The only way to stop it would be to literally take out (kill) every member of the 'church' that could potentially rebuild it, or keep it alive.

All in all, the "raids" will only server to make Scientology stronger I fear...they'll rebuild and become even MORE dead-set in their ways as a defense.
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#23
wouldnt showing up infront of the CoS ruin the whole 'anonymous' thing? just wondering...
#24
^ maybe thats where legion comes in? idk.

I saw them on Fox 4 news, was hilarious. They explained the concepts of "lulz" and called them super-hackers and domestic terrorists. completely blew it out of proportion, like theyd have shots of vans blowing up and **** like that. look up anonymous on Fox on youtube.
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^ maybe thats where legion comes in? idk.

I saw them on Fox 4 news, was hilarious. They explained the concepts of "lulz" and called them super-hackers and domestic terrorists. completely blew it out of proportion, like theyd have shots of vans blowing up and **** like that. look up anonymous on Fox on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pyR_90RdOg

Anyway, I don't know whether I'm for or against the whole Anonymous vs. Scientology thing. I suppose it depends on how far they take it.
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Personally, I can't stand Scientology - their founder wrote science fiction before starting his religion (which wasn't a religion until the taxman came along), they demand money for "enlightenment" and then feed people stories about aliens. Would you trust them?

That's what they said about the Jews

Hate crimes are hate crimes, imo.
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That's what they said about the Jews

Hate crimes are hate crimes, imo.



Except they aren't going to physically harm any member of scientology. They are just going to try to dismantle the church of get a lot of support against it.

I'm for it.
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Except they aren't going to physically harm any member of scientology. They are just going to try to dismantle the church of get a lot of support against it.

I'm for it.

Except that they already vandalized their website, which is a crime, no?

You don't have to commit genocide to commit a hate crime, bud. You're still attacking someone simply based on their religion (First Amendment?)
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I hope they succeed. Scientology is a brutal organization, we would be better off without them.
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#30
Im not really sure what to think about this whole thing. Does feb 10th have any meaning? I just have a feelings its for 'epic lulz' and nothing else. If anything good comes out of this, it is that people have educated themeselves on the topic.
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I think Scientology is retarded and for that reason I support anyone against it.
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Except that they already vandalized their website, which is a crime, no?

You don't have to commit genocide to commit a hate crime, bud. You're still attacking someone simply based on their religion (First Amendment?)


Anon isn't trying to attack the average Scientologist, Anon is trying to attack the people who run the religion, these people charge up to $100,000 a year for 'audits' & other self help programs, and have also orchestrated Infiltrations of government organizations & forceful attacks on free speech (the removal of the tom cruise video) the content of the actual religion is just adds some lulz.

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$30,000 per enlightenment, you cheap hack.
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#34
It would be totally awesome if anonymous turned out to be all of the common, hardworking people of this earth, and we all came out at once and whooped the asses of the assholes who have been screwing with us since civilization began. Sort of the collective voice of all people who are tired of being fucked with.
#35
They're protesting the flow of false information (scientology) polluting their internetz.
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#36
It sounds like there are some seriously good intentions, but then again it might be all just for the lulz.

I'll be sure to listen to the news on the 10th.
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I remember a thread on /i/ where Anon was slowly forming an alliance with Islam, cause "they're always up for this kind of ****". I LOL'd for over 9000 days when someone said "If anyone lives in a muslim country, try and get the imam to preach a jihad against $cientology."

Im probably gonna sound like a newfag for asking this, but how come when I go to /i/ its just another picture board. Is there an actual invasion board, or is that just sort of a running joke?
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Anon isn't trying to attack the average Scientologist, Anon is trying to attack the people who run the religion, these people charge up to $100,000 a year for 'audits' & other self help programs, and have also orchestrated Infiltrations of government organizations & forceful attacks on free speech (the removal of the tom cruise video) the content of the actual religion is just adds some lulz.

/rant

The whole thing about hate crimes is that by carrying one out, you ruin everyone else's day. They make the average Scientologist live in fear of being personally attacked, and encourages others to actually attack them and their religion openly. For example: "I don't condone attacking gays directly, but I don't think they should be allowed to marry," or "I don't condone attacking black people directly, but let's do something about their right to vote."

From my understanding, the "Tom Cruise video" was a Scientology video in the first place, and it was put up on the internet without their consent. Besides, YouTube is a company, and they deal with their problems the way they want to to please their clients.
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#39

Really, what the hell are they going to do? Rick roll the website? Send mudkipz in the mail?
It's a billion dollar scheme. As pathetic as it is, there are some people who can exploit that.
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Really, what the hell are they going to do? Rick roll the website? Send mudkipz in the mail?
It's a billion dollar scheme. As pathetic as it is, there are some people who can exploit that.

If you had read it, they are organizing big protests.
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