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#1
the file sharing war of course.
now i live in Canada so this doesn't really effect me but i thought i would tell the American pit

apparently the music industry has given up...

heres the story

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article3261591.ece
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#2
seems like a good move by the music industry (thought I'd never say that), but I'll probably stick with torrents for the most part.
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#6
I would say it's more like the music industry attempting to monopolize the peer to peer networks and make one of them and only one the legitimate site to steal from them.
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#7
I still won't download illegially. I want my favorite bands to be around in 10 years to still be making albums.
#8
wait...dude...this is good for listeners...but that is gonna be a HUGE thron in our side if any of us are planning on being musicians
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wait...dude...this is good for listeners...but that is gonna be a HUGE thron in our side if any of us are planning on being musicians

are you serious? The huge thorn was napster, and now everything that has followed. The number of people who actually download this software will be way lower than limewire numbers or anything else. I don't expect this to get very popular, to be honest.
#11
Ehh, I just got the Qtrax thing, and it really isnt that great. All it is is a website that you have to view with this program called SOng Bird, which is really buggy and hast even reached v1.0.

I cant download any songs at all through the qtrax p2p thing, and overall it just sucks. I wouldnt recommend it at all.

Overall this is my opinion: i think Qtrax is a pretty cool guy. eh is buggy and slow and doesnt afraid of anything.
#13
This is a bad move imo. I still encourage you guys to support your favorite bands and artists.
#14
I hear it's a bitch ton of ads though. And you cannot burn cds of the music, only add them to a music device like iPod.
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Artists don't make much money from album sales, the main purpose of album sales is to promote the band's music for live shows. If anything, this will help the artists, record companies and listeners.
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Artists don't make much money from album sales.


Yeah, from what I hear they get a pretty small percentage, like under a quarter.
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Yeah, from what I hear they get a pretty small percentage, like under a quarter.


That's because the money is meant to pay back the investment made by those involved in their contract.
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Yeah, from what I hear they get a pretty small percentage, like under a quarter.


I think with Radiohead's deal with EMI, they got roughly a quid for every album sold.
#19
Ah, excellent, a decade of people stealing music has ended with artists being, just in general, paid less money by their record companies. Fantastic.
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#20
dude cool to hear but not cool for the next generation of musicians, us.....
well we'd just hav 2 cope wit it, what can a bunch of dickheads in UG do? apparently the music industry lost.
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Yeah, from what I hear they get a pretty small percentage, like under a quarter.

even lower i think. It's mainly the record labels that are fighting this because they make all the money.
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#22
people will do it anyway, even it its not legal.

the music industry is just finally realising that with such an easy way to get free music without being caught, people will not buy records.
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dude cool to hear but not cool for the next generation of musicians, us.....
well we'd just hav 2 cope wit it, what can a bunch of dickheads in UG do? apparently the music industry lost.


Would you expect to live off just CD sales? No tours hmm?
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#24
Meh, when I start gaining ground with my band, we'll just tour a bunch. Live shows are gonna make you more money than CDs will, anyways.
#25
The notion of Canada not having any anti-piracy laws is kind of an outdated one.
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Ah, excellent, a decade of people stealing music has ended with artists being, just in general, paid less money by their record companies. Fantastic.


Exactly. I say more bands should go the way of Radiohead and self release albums, they made a hell of a lot of money out of In Rainbows.
#27
I don't understand it... if they dump the laws, then loads more people are going to start, because they'll think it's ok.
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#31
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I still won't download illegially. I want my favorite bands to be around in 10 years to still be making albums.


you realize they make all their money from merch and touring right?

hopefully the giant music industry as we know it will disappear. with home recording and making songs available for download, this could be the first arena of real distributism in the modern world.
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"Qtrax files contain Digital Rights Management software, allowing the company to see how many times a song has been downloaded and played. Artists, record companies and publishers will be paid in proportion to the popularity of their music, while also taking a cut of advertising revenues"

To some of the earlier posts saying this screws over anyone who wants to become a musician. It may not be as good as real CD sales, but at least you will be getting paid more here than from people pirating your music.
#33
if you like the band, you should support them and buy the albums.

But free distribution of music may be a definately gain in popularity for alot of bands. Those who put out albums that no one wants to buy because they haven't heard of them will now be heard?
#34
Well I feel more positive about this than other people obviously do.

I think this is finally a bigger step toward a more modern music industry. Despite what anyone feels, I feel like buying music is a thing in the past. It can actually hold some bands back if you think about it. I'm happy about this news.
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#35
scrap record companies, let bands work hard and fund their own records. The cream will rise to the top, mediocrity will not be able to survive. Live music will thrive (bands only way to earn money to record)

realistically bands don't need the months they spend in expensive recording studio's. If songs were written and arrangements worked out in cheaper rehearsal space a good band would only need a few days in a recording studio to get an album cut.

I hate over-production in music, if bands were forced to spend less on that 'polished' sound the albums would probably sound 10x better. I'm not saying no production, but alot of music is made extremely robotically these days (each instrument recorded separately) People should try the method Maiden are using these days, full band recording of the song THEN overdub on top of that. A Matter Of Life and Death? sounds great.

EDIT: also, Radioheads 'pay what you like' thing is genius for established bands, They have their own studios's bought and paid for from previous success, so the actual recording of the album is pretty cheap (compared to a noob band who have to rent space and pay for mixing/mastering, usually paid for by record companies, and costing a ****-load), no record companies take a cut, so they probably earn about as much off an album as they did with a record company, but the fans don't get butt raped.
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#36
**** business man, downloading is fine with me.
Its art, get the **** over it, you should be happy someones listening to your music.
Oh well, i still prefer vinyl over mp3 **** anyday.
I still will buy the albums, and always will. I just sample it first.
#37
I'm not sure what I feel on this. Music stores will lose all of their business.
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