#1
http://www.blackstaramps.co.uk/


Ex marshall guys left a few years ago and finally released these amps earlier on.

Basicly discribed as boutique amps minus the price. So it should be interesting.

Check em out. and someone play one and review it! lol!
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Quote by Roc8995
Boutique amps minus the price my ass.


+1. They all say that. The Artisan ones look nice, shame I can't hear them, which, to be honest, defeats the object.
#7
Quote by Roc8995
Boutique amps minus the price my ass.


boutique amp: £2000

blackstar price: £800

ergo, your ass costs £1200 (or $2400 if you prefer). I think it's over-priced.

EDIT: seriously though, agreed. they do all say that. though the soundclips of that new "hand-wired" vox heritage amp have sounded good.
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#9
I bet they designed the MG and got fired...

On a more serious note, What exactly makes these amps boutique?
#10
Quote by sum_ugly_man
I bet they designed the MG and got fired...

Avt and mode 4 actually!
#11
Quote by Dave_Mc
boutique amp: £2000

blackstar price: £800

ergo, your ass costs £1200 (or $2400 if you prefer). I think it's over-priced.

EDIT: seriously though, agreed. they do all say that. though the soundclips of that new "hand-wired" vox heritage amp have sounded good.


My ass is on sale for $2200, I'll take paypal or money order. Shipping is extra outside the US And don't say it's overpriced until you see the pics, it's worth it I promise.

Anyway, what's that 800 for? If it's the 18-watt, I'm not really convinced. I'm just sick of every company that claims to be boutique without the price that invariably turns out to be 'discount-boutique' price but built poorly, or reasonably priced but with peavey-like quality (sorry, it's true.) I've resigned myself to more or less getting what I pay for one way or the other.
#12
Quote by Roc8995
My ass is on sale for $2200, I'll take paypal or money order. Shipping is extra outside the US And don't say it's overpriced until you see the pics, it's worth it I promise.

what condition?
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what condition?


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#14
Quote by Roc8995
My ass is on sale for $2200, I'll take paypal or money order. Shipping is extra outside the US And don't say it's overpriced until you see the pics, it's worth it I promise.

Anyway, what's that 800 for? If it's the 18-watt, I'm not really convinced. I'm just sick of every company that claims to be boutique without the price that invariably turns out to be 'discount-boutique' price but built poorly, or reasonably priced but with peavey-like quality (sorry, it's true.) I've resigned myself to more or less getting what I pay for one way or the other.


yeah, basically (about the amps, not your ass)...

i think the 15-watter was £800... i mean that's not all that cheap. not that long ago you could get a cornford hurricane (which is boutique) for £1000 (though that dealer has stopped stocking them, and they're £1200 everywhere else).
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#15
Quote by Dave_Mc


i think the 15-watter was £800... i mean that's not all that cheap.

Christ thats steep..
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I lol'd. Thats the funniest thing I have seen outside of the pit in months! You Roc are my hero. lol
#17
Might be cheaper than a boutique amp but I still think its ridiculous for a company to come out of nowhere and charge that much for an amp. They should at least start off small and get well established before they start jacking up their prices to that of already well established companies (Mesa, Orange, Vox, Marshall)
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#18
Quote by Dave_Mc
yeah, basically (about the amps, not your ass)...

i think the 15-watter was £800... i mean that's not all that cheap.


That sounds like pretty regular boutique-type price to me.
#19
a shop near me stocks them. maybe i'll try them out next time i'm down there. maybe not.
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#20
Quote by sum_ugly_man
I bet they designed the MG and got fired...

On a more serious note, What exactly makes these amps boutique?


Price, tone, quality of components, build structure, build quality, whether they're handwired, etc. Basically you're paying for the labour and, er, 'craftsmenship'.
#21
i got one of their pedals. its overdrive and cost me £99. thats quite steep for a pedal but not for a valve based od. and it rules. beats my modded ds-1 and my modded bd-2. hands down but it was twice the price...
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#23
The pedals look pretty boring, to be honest . Nothing especially fresh, and all of them are dist, OD or some kind of boost. Bit boring. Sure they sound quite nice, though..
#24
If they make a nice reverb that sounds as good as the Room Mate, but costs only £100, I will buy their stuff.

Looks pretty nice, but I haven't heard any clips or had a chance to use any of the gear, so I can't really say much...

Edit: Forget that last bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G5S4tS_EOA

I can't speak French, but it sounds alright.

Re-edit: Just in case Don wants to see.

Tags: judge fredd blackstar ht dual boite noire

Last edited by Denthúl at Jan 29, 2008,
#25
Quote by Denthúl
If they make a nice reverb that sounds as good as the Room Mate, but costs only £100, I will buy their stuff.

Looks pretty nice, but I haven't heard any clips or had a chance to use any of the gear, so I can't really say much...

Edit: Forget that last bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G5S4tS_EOA

I can't speak French, but it sounds alright.

Re-edit: Just in case Don wants to see.

Tags: judge fredd blackstar ht dual boite noire





Anyway, sounds a bit nasal to me. Lacking in something...Little bit cold to my ears..Especially the first setting he had it on.
#27
Quote by Don_Humpador
The pedals look pretty boring, to be honest . Nothing especially fresh, and all of them are dist, OD or some kind of boost. Bit boring. Sure they sound quite nice, though..


theres nothing boring about the boost pedal i have. maybe it was what was being played through it when you heard it?

mine sound fantastic. lovely drive and nice crunch. i have the HT-DRIVE by the way.
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#28
Quote by mr_hankey
That sounds like pretty regular boutique-type price to me.


yeah.

just checked guitarist magazine... prices are £799 and £1199 for the 15 and 30 watters respectively. if you ask me, those are near-enough boutique prices.

Granted, US-made boutique amps may be more expensive. But the US isn't the only place which makes kick-ass boutique amps. cornell, cornford, wolfetone etc all make boutique amps for not very much more money, indeed less if you're willing to take less wattage.

people need to realise (and the guitar magazines are complicit in the deception) that boutique doesn't just mean the price. It means the whole ethos of the construction. If i rebadged a valve junior and whacked a £2000 price tag on it, if I paid enough for advertising space in said mag, I wouldn't be surprised if the magazine would be willing to call it boutique...

Don't get me wrong, those blackstar amps might be badass. But they seem expensive for what they are.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#29
(can't edit or my computer will crash)

and to call them "boutique at non-boutique prices" is verging on deception if you ask me.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#30
Quote by Dave_Mc
yeah.

just checked guitarist magazine... prices are £799 and £1199 for the 15 and 30 watters respectively. if you ask me, those are near-enough boutique prices.

Granted, US-made boutique amps may be more expensive. But the US isn't the only place which makes kick-ass boutique amps. cornell, cornford, wolfetone etc all make boutique amps for not very much more money, indeed less if you're willing to take less wattage.

people need to realise (and the guitar magazines are complicit in the deception) that boutique doesn't just mean the price. It means the whole ethos of the construction. If i rebadged a valve junior and whacked a £2000 price tag on it, if I paid enough for advertising space in said mag, I wouldn't be surprised if the magazine would be willing to call it boutique...

Don't get me wrong, those blackstar amps might be badass. But they seem expensive for what they are.


Way ahead of you dave, way ahead of you.
#31
(i'm guessing you're talking about the rebadged epiphone? if so...)

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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#33
i have no idea what you meant then.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#34
This sucks...I thought I would like their stuff..... BUT....too british voiced for me.
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#35
Holy bumpage, Batman!

I wasn't aware of these amps when this thread was started back in the 60's, but when I tried them out at the New York Amp Show, I was very impressed.

Too British? What the hell does that mean?
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