#1
Especially so for games, I have to run Far Cry on the lowest settings.

It says:
nVidia GeForce
FX5200XT3D AGP
128MB DDR video memory

etc.
If it helps, the computer is 2.8GHz Pentium 4, 512MB RAM, 120GB Hard Drive.

Cheers guys, please explain it's limits, etc.!
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#2
It's not HORRIBLE, but the rest of your computer is disproportionately better than your card. I have the same problem too. I have a GeForce 6150 and it's just too weak compared to my system as a whole.
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It's not HORRIBLE, but the rest of your computer is disproportionately better than your card. I have the same problem too. I have a GeForce 6150 and it's just too weak compared to my system as a whole.


Thanks man. Any other opinions on this?

Also, what sorta card would suit my computer fair well?
The computer came as stock or whatever, I haven't changed anything, if that matters. 0.0
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#4
ouch 512 ram
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The most important things are to get a better video card (something in the GeForce 7 series is the most affordable option) and some more RAM, if you want. If you don't want the RAM, just set a large page file, if you know what that is.
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#6
Not that bad, better than my integrated 8mb video
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ouch 512 ram


....

It does the trick.

It wasn't bought for games, and hasn't been used for them before Far Cry.
Which rules, btw.

Now back to my question(s) above?
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The most important things are to get a better video card (something in the GeForce 7 series is the most affordable option) and some more RAM, if you want. If you don't want the RAM, just set a large page file, if you know what that is.


Thanks a lot for your help, firstly.

Secondly, I've but no idea what th page file majiggy is.
Thirdly, how does one go about increasing one's RAM, and how much would this cost, along with the rough pricing for a 7 series GeForce?
Just rough prices or whatever, I can convert them.
Thanks even if you can't give rough prices though. *Thumbs up*
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#9
You'll want more RAM, your graphics card isn't the worst thing you have. Try to find a 256 MB one if you really want to upgrade, but first off work on get at the very least 1 GB of RAM.

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Thanks a lot for your help, firstly.

Secondly, I've but no idea what th page file majiggy is.
Thirdly, how does one go about increasing one's RAM, and how much would this cost, along with the rough pricing for a 7 series GeForce?
Just rough prices or whatever, I can convert them.
Thanks even if you can't give rough prices though. *Thumbs up*


Paging file option:
Control Panel> Performance (Information and Tools)> Performance Options> Advanced tab> Virtual Memory box> Change> Set the value higher than what yours is now

*Note I'm on Vista and I don't remember if the Performance box is titled the same as mine in XP and lower.

Look up the graphics card prices on Best Buy or some other computer store site.

RAM sticks just do the same thing for.
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#10
My computer is: 256 MB or RAM, 1.8 GHz Processor, Pentium 4, 64 MB inbuilt Direct 3D graphics card, and I can run all N64 games in full screen as well as CS, Halo and Far Cry full detail. Not the best, but surprisingly fast, efficient and smooth.
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My computer is: 256 MB or RAM, 1.8 GHz Processor, Pentium 4, 64 MB inbuilt Direct 3D graphics card, and I can run all N64 games in full screen as well as CS, Halo and Far Cry full detail. Not the best, but surprisingly fast, efficient and smooth.


maybe cuz your not like everyone here thats always looking at free porn!

haha thats good though for your computer. My computer sux, but not cuz of porn it just sux.
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#12
I have exactly the same rig, TS!



...except less disc space.
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#13
my old computer that i stopped using a month ago had 96mb of ram
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I have exactly the same rig, TS!



...except less disc space.

LOL!
Awww. Well I've only got 80GB left. O.O
Maybe we're closer now?

Still, high-5!
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Quote by hethamulburton
You'll want more RAM, your graphics card isn't the worst thing you have. Try to find a 256 MB one if you really want to upgrade, but first off work on get at the very least 1 GB of RAM.


Paging file option:
Control Panel> Performance (Information and Tools)> Performance Options> Advanced tab> Virtual Memory box> Change> Set the value higher than what yours is now

*Note I'm on Vista and I don't remember if the Performance box is titled the same as mine in XP and lower.

Look up the graphics card prices on Best Buy or some other computer store site.

RAM sticks just do the same thing for.


a) No, I don't have "Performance" under Control Panel. Or anything like it.
b) If you set this value higher, how much higher should you set it, and can any damage be done?
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#18
At this point you'd probably see a better performance boost by getting more RAM than you would by getting a new vid card.

Especially if you're running Vista a gig is like the absolute minimum I'd want to have.. I have a fairly comparable system to yours as far as specs, but I have 2GB of RAM and most games I play run perfectly fine (WOW, CS:Source, and so forth) with most settings at least moderate.

Yeah, getting a vid card will help, but until you get some more RAM that's the biggest chokepoint your system is encountering.

EDIT: Virtual memory adjustment in XP is under the "System" icon in control panel, under the "Advanced" tab, under performance settings, then under the advanced tab... you can't really have too much but I'm sure it has diminishing returns above a couple gigs. Mine's currently set to 3000MB. It's not just "swapping out hard disk space for memory," it's a little more complex than that. It swaps the active program into the real memory and puts the inactive programs into the virtual memory, but sometimes it spends so much time doing the swapping that it artificially decreases system speed, and the only way to really speed it up is to get more REAL RAM.
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#19
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a) No, I don't have "Performance" under Control Panel. Or anything like it.
b) If you set this value higher, how much higher should you set it, and can any damage be done?


its in System (control panel), then Advanced, then settings, then advanced again
#20
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At this point you'd probably see a better performance boost by getting more RAM than you would by getting a new vid card.

Especially if you're running Vista a gig is like the absolute minimum I'd want to have.. I have a fairly comparable system to yours as far as specs, but I have 2GB of RAM and most games I play run perfectly fine (WOW, CS:Source, and so forth) with most settings at least moderate.

Yeah, getting a vid card will help, but until you get some more RAM that's the biggest chokepoint your system is encountering.

EDIT: Virtual memory adjustment in XP is under the "System" icon in control panel, under the "Advanced" tab, under performance settings, then under the advanced tab... you can't really have too much but I'm sure it has diminishing returns above a couple gigs. Mine's currently set to 3000MB. It's not just "swapping out hard disk space for memory," it's a little more complex than that. It swaps the active program into the real memory and puts the inactive programs into the virtual memory, but sometimes it spends so much time doing the swapping that it artificially decreases system speed, and the only way to really speed it up is to get more REAL RAM.


Ok, it says:
Initial size (MB): 768
Maximum size (MB): 1536

That's under "Custom Size".

What do I change, and what do you reccommend I change it to?
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Ok, it says:
Initial size (MB): 768
Maximum size (MB): 1536

That's under "Custom Size".

What do I change, and what do you reccommend I change it to?



Helpp?
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#22
dude no. DON'T USE PAGING FILE UNLESS YOU HAVE A SATA HARD DRIVE.
IT SLOWS EVERYTHING DOWN.
buy more ram, even if it's only like another 512 stick.
#23
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dude no. DON'T USE PAGING FILE UNLESS YOU HAVE A SATA HARD DRIVE.
IT SLOWS EVERYTHING DOWN.
buy more ram, even if it's only like another 512 stick.


Really?
That goes directly against what the other guy said.
Is it's purpose not to exchange Hard Drive space with RAM?
I've got a good 80GB spare Hard Drive space.
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#24
no you see, when you use the PF, it enables a section of your hard drive for use as ram. however... when you have an IDE hard drive, its transfer rate is slower than that of ram. therefore, it actually slows down the computer when using the PF. i have 4 gigs of ram, so i turn the PF off. trust me, though it is (obviously) cheaper to use the PF, it won't improve performance at all.
#25
My god you guys give a load of wrong information. First off the paging file is SLOW. It would be better to just increase your RAM.

Secondly, STFU all you tards telling him to get a GeForce 7 or 8 series. Can you not see that his card is AGP? His motherboard is old so it doesn't have PCI-X and they newer AGP cards that they do make are horrible bang for your buck. Also, to the guy who said "at least 256mb video card" vram has little effect on overall performance of a card. There are many things to consider. TS, I would look around on ebay to find something like a 6800. Chances are you can find em really cheap now and I used to play Far Cry on full settings with one, pretty good card.

I would definitely NOT recommend overclocking. The pentium 4's are pretty bad in terms of cooling and power efficiency. You'd have to set up a lot better cooling in your system to overclock at all and even then you wouldn't get that much out of it.

Honestly, with how cheap things are I think you'd do yourself better to just get a new PC. For like 400-500 you make a really decent machine nowadays. But like I said if you don't want to, then look into getting something like another 512MB or 1GB of RAM (make sure it is compatible, you didn't specify what type of RAM you have so depending on that it may be hard to find something that old) and possibly something like a geforce 6800 or 6800gt, maybe one of the newer agp cards if you really wanna spend the money on this old system.

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Yea the fx5200 is outdated now. An 8600GT should make you happy or go for an 8800GT.


Do NOT do this because those cards WILL NOT work in your system. Not to mention they would be SEVERELY bottlenecked by your other components.
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My computer is: 256 MB or RAM, 1.8 GHz Processor, Pentium 4, 64 MB inbuilt Direct 3D graphics card, and I can run all N64 games in full screen as well as CS, Halo and Far Cry full detail. Not the best, but surprisingly fast, efficient and smooth.


I CALL BULL****.
seriously, CS on full? not even remotely possible.
my 256 couldnt handle it with a 2.8 ghz pentium 4 and 768 of ram