#1
and was told by my parents that the fender MIM Jazz bass was over my budget. i tried it out anyway, but realized that the neck was thicker than an ibanez soundgear bass that i also tried (i think its either the SRX350 or the SRX590). the ibanez was 240 USD and the fender jazz bass was 435 USD. so heres my question: is the fender j-bass really that much better than the ibanez, or should i just stick with the ibanez? (btw, im a beginner but i'm gonna be using the bass for messing aorund and skool jazz band for at least 3-4 years, and im already a guitarist)
also, even if i get the ibanez, will it be a good choice? (in terms of playability and tone)

and, i'm also set on getting a roland bass cube 30x, is that a good choice? it'll be just for practice, cuz the skool already has a good gigging amp
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#2
With bass, a thick neck isn't something that's necessarily a bad thing. You aren't going to be shredding or anything.

The Roland is great.

The Fender Jazz bass is pretty much the quintessential bass. But if your parents say it's out of your budget, then there's not much you can do.

I don't know about the Ibanez. Check out the forum FAQ sticky and see the top 10 basses for beginners.
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#3
yea cuz i might be able to get the fender if its that much better (worth the money), but the problem is that im 14 and my hands are pretty small
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My friend has a 590, its pretty sweet!
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#5
Your hands are probably bigger than mine and I actually prefer a p bass neck. Jazz bass feels to thin to me. If you enjoy playing bass you will most likely want to upgrade to a fender eventually (from the ibanez). Im a fender fan so of course I would say get the jazz bass. But there is a reason why so many people like fenders.

Go try out the basses again (try out a p bass too) dont think about price, find one that feels right for you. Ive also heard that the roland bass cube is a great amp.
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With bass, a thick neck isn't something that's necessarily a bad thing. You aren't going to be shredding or anything.

The Roland is great.

The Fender Jazz bass is pretty much the quintessential bass. But if your parents say it's out of your budget, then there's not much you can do.

I don't know about the Ibanez. Check out the forum FAQ sticky and see the top 10 basses for beginners.


billie sheeham and john myung actually want thick necks!!
And you can;'t say they don't shred sometimes

Ps. Though I like how the ibanez play, I never liked their sound. But I hate fenders even more Why don;t you go for an Yamaha RBX, plays as fast as an Ibanez!
#7
Here's a twist. Ask you parents what your budget limit is and then go back to the store. Look at the basses in your range and play them again. Rate them out by sound and playability. Unless one bass really jumps out at you, this process may take a few trips. Or if you have a way of earning extra cash and you are dead set on the more expensive jazz, offer to make up the difference.

The Roland bass cube is a great practice amp. I am currently trying to decide between that amp and the Orange Crush for my next practice amp.

And hand size means nothing. I have smaller hands and I can handle a Jazz V and P bass just fine. You may have to work it a bit more at the beginning and exercises that stretch your fretting hand and build strength in those fingers will be vital to your practice routine. It is completely doable. Even though I love my Ibanez, my next bass will probably be something with a heftier neck. Again, its all up to you and what feels right, but don't rule out basses because you think your hands can't handle them
#8
Well I am biased, because I am an Ibanez fan. The thing that I absolutely love about the brand is that even its lowest-line stuff is good stuff.

Amongst the circles I associate with, the Soundgear is considered one of the quintessential low-budget basses. Now, I will definitely give the Jazz (and hey, the P-Bass for that matter) their respective dues... but if you can't spend the extra bucks, don't be disappointed with the Soundgear.

And as a sidenote, if you find yourself really liking the Soundgear, but want something a little more professional in the future, look into a Ibanez Ergodyne. It's got a lot of the same dimensions as the Soundgear, but it's totally upgraded. And it's got a Luthite body. They run about 850 USD if I remember right. I use it just as much as I use my Stingray.

Heh, but yeah, give that Soundgear a try. And remember, it's about personal preference.
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#9
Really, proper technique makes all the hand-size problems converge. You'll learn a thick neck, even a mid 50's Precision neck. It's just a matter of putting time into practicing, which you're going to anyway. At least with a thicker neck, you might pick up good technique quicker because it won't work well on a thicker neck, while on an Ibanez you can get away with it. However, how the hell thin are Ibanez necks if they're noticibly thinner than a Jazz!?

And again, hand size means nothing. If I can play mandolin, you can play bass. You're more likely to increase finger stretch than I am to lose physical finger size.
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Well I am biased, because I am an Ibanez fan. The thing that I absolutely love about the brand is that even its lowest-line stuff is good stuff.

Amongst the circles I associate with, the Soundgear is considered one of the quintessential low-budget basses. Now, I will definitely give the Jazz (and hey, the P-Bass for that matter) their respective dues... but if you can't spend the extra bucks, don't be disappointed with the Soundgear.

And as a sidenote, if you find yourself really liking the Soundgear, but want something a little more professional in the future, look into a Ibanez Ergodyne. It's got a lot of the same dimensions as the Soundgear, but it's totally upgraded. And it's got a Luthite body. They run about 850 USD if I remember right. I use it just as much as I use my Stingray.

Heh, but yeah, give that Soundgear a try. And remember, it's about personal preference.


Ibanex also make a whole series of ergodyne, And my one the ' EDB-400 ' is the best bass for its money ( £319 )

everyone check out that series.
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#11
If you're 14, you probably don't want to buy a thin neck just because of your hand size. Your hands will grow. The Ibanez may feel small when they do.
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#12
Small hands =/= you needing a thin neck.

If you cant fret a major scales in any position on a "thicker" neck then there's something wrong with your technique regardless of small hands or not. I'm 5' 10" and can fret from fret 1 to fret 4 with no trouble! I'm hardly tall.

Anyway, bass necks are thinner than guitar necks. Quit yo' whining

You should choose a neck by it's comfort and if you cant fret anything then there's something up with your technique. If it is one of them bitch of a stretch then fret it in a different position and it's certainly got nothing to do with neck width.

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#13
my few simple words of advice

yes the fender is a damn sight better than the ibanez.

and the squier vintage modified jazz bass is up there with the fender but for a fraction of the price. and it looks better than an MIM
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i think the clear answer is look used... my local music go round usually has 3 or 4 crafted in japan fenders basses and they usually go for about 300... the mij guitars are usually more, but seriously going used is the smartest thing to do
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#16
^ well they arent all listed on music go rounds website, you usually have to go in to see eveything available, but i guess that concentration of japanese fenders is a bit rare
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Go for the fender, if there's any possible way. At least from my experiences, I've never felt an Ibanez as nice as a good fender. Then again, if the Ibanez is really calling you, go for it. Our opinions aren't the ones that matter, it's yours.
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thnx for the replies guys ill see if my parents'll let me get the fender jazz. btw, if two guitars have the same width at the nut, then does that mean they have the same width neck?
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#20
... thick necks are awesome just not "baseball bats" and if its too wide for your taste now it wont be in about a year
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thnx for the replies guys ill see if my parents'll let me get the fender jazz. btw, if two guitars have the same width at the nut, then does that mean they have the same width neck?


Not necessarily, as the necks can be deeper and/or different widths at other points. Shape of the neck makes a big difference.

However, thin necks shouldn't mean much. I have tiny hands, especially for my size (can only fret from 1-4 on by B string without really streching into position) and I find the baseball bat necks of Warwicks to be far more comfortable than skinny jazz necks.

On that note, if you find a jazz neck too fat, you're doing it wrong. There is no way that neck is too fat.

I would go with the MIM Jazz over the Ibanez, simply because it is a much nicer bass. You need to get rid of the thinner=better attitude to necks. Simply get what is most comfortable. No neck is faster than another. They just require a bit more practise and proper technique.

EDIT.
1)That is not a wall of text at all.
2)Hand size should not factor in at all. Anarkee is tiny and can play a fretless stingray fine.
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EDIT.
1)That is not a wall of text at all.
2)Hand size should not factor in at all. Anarkee is tiny and can play a fretless stingray fine.


1) I'm a pit monkey, and since we dont have the neccesary attention span to read more than 2 lines that have nothing to do with porn or the lulz, it is considered a wall of text.

2) ok
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1) I'm a pit monkey, and since we dont have the neccesary attention span to read more than 2 lines that have nothing to do with porn or the lulz, it is considered a wall of text.

2) ok


1) So am I. Doesn't mean I haev an attention span of 20 seconds.

2)Provided you can reach the frets on the lowest string (I still struggle to hit the 23rd and 24th on my low B) it shouldn't be a problem at all. If you have massive hands, it is a just a slight advantage for easier stretches.
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#24
ok, so i'm going back to the shop tmr to try out the jazz and the ibanez again, and hopefully i can buy one that i feel comfortable with
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