Poll: Which of the three should i do
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View poll results: Which of the three should i do
Get an Epiphone Les Paul Ultra II soon
8 27%
Save up and get a Gibson LP Studio
4 13%
Save up even longer and get a Gibson LP Standard
18 60%
Voters: 30.
#1
Ok so im a little conflicted now. My bro keeps saying how i should save up for a Gibson les paul, cause u know they increase in value over time...but thatll take some time. So im thinking should i get an epiphone les paul ultra II, or should i save longer for a Gibson LP studio, or even longer for a Gibson LP standard...do studios increase in value over time? or is it really worth saving for a gibson instead of getting a epiphone sooner?
Guitars:
Ibanez EW30ASERLG
Jackson Performer PS4 (soon to be sold)
Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR
Orpheus Valley Fiesta FC
Gear:
POD X3 Live
Boss ME-20
Marshall MG15DFX
M-Audio Fastrack Ultra
Boss DR660
#2
Why do you want it to increase value over time? Are you using it to make money in the long run? Cause if you are, I don't think you should be buying one anyway.
#3
they dont increase in value over time anymore

the really old ones do, cos they werent mass-manufactured, and actually built by master luthiers

sadly, this isnt the case anymore

if youre a decent guitarist and you can afford it, then save for the gibson. if guitar is just a little hobby for you, youre not that serious about it, and you havent got much money, then just buy the epiphone
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#4
No im not tryin to make money off of it, and yes i wanna be able to keep the guitar for a looong time without seriously busting...
Guitars:
Ibanez EW30ASERLG
Jackson Performer PS4 (soon to be sold)
Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR
Orpheus Valley Fiesta FC
Gear:
POD X3 Live
Boss ME-20
Marshall MG15DFX
M-Audio Fastrack Ultra
Boss DR660
#5
Go for the epiphone i have that epi les paul custom with sounds a lot like my gibson les paul trust me u wont be dissapointed
#6
ok then sank you guys
Guitars:
Ibanez EW30ASERLG
Jackson Performer PS4 (soon to be sold)
Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR
Orpheus Valley Fiesta FC
Gear:
POD X3 Live
Boss ME-20
Marshall MG15DFX
M-Audio Fastrack Ultra
Boss DR660
#8
Studios = vomit. Good christ, the Epi LP Ultra II is in fact a superior instrument than the Gibson Studio is.

Incidentally though, the Ultra (and Ultra II) really is not your typical LP (being effectively semi-hollow body and also with Epiphone's inherently darker tone), and it should only really be bought if you want the specific tone that an Epi Ultra gives; no other LP gives a tone quite like that. The Ultra should be seen as a specialised LP, not just 'a generic top-end Epiphone'.


To that end, your options really are:

- Epiphone Custom, spend the extra money on a pickup and nut change. This will give you a (much) better instrument than the Gibson Studio would be. Downside is the quality control can be random, so you have to spend time hunting out one of the rare good ones to begin with.

- Save up a bit more and get the Gibson Standard. Really, Standards and Classics are the minimum Gibson that is ever worth bothering with. Both Standards and Classics are decent quality instruments (really the only difference between them are which pickups they come with stock, and your finish options).

- Save up possibly not so much or possibly more, and get an Epiphone Elitist LP. These are superior instruments to Gibson's production models, though they can be harder to get hold of, and in some countries they can cost more too. They don't suffer from Epiphone's usual quality control issues though, so at least you don't have to worry about trying lots out. Do some research, check out prices in your area. If the Elitist is only a tiny bit more than the Gibson (or perhaps less than the Gibson, as they are in some places), then the Elitist would be the best way to go. As I said though, in some places they're hard to get and cost much more than the Gibson Standards, in which case it wouldn't be worth it.

- Look into a top-end Tokai, Vintage, mid-range ESP or high-range ESP/LTD LP copy. Depends what you care to play: The Tokai is good all-round but a touch generic, Vintage guitars are a bit more suited to blues, ESP and ESP/LTD are more suited for metal. There are also Edwards, Agile and Michael Kelly LP copies which many people on here rave on about. though personally I've never found any of those three brands to be any good.
#9
epiphone elitist
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#10
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Studios = vomit. Good christ, the Epi LP Ultra II is in fact a superior instrument than the Gibson Studio is.

Incidentally though, the Ultra (and Ultra II) really is not your typical LP (being effectively semi-hollow body and also with Epiphone's inherently darker tone), and it should only really be bought if you want the specific tone that an Epi Ultra gives; no other LP gives a tone quite like that. The Ultra should be seen as a specialised LP, not just 'a generic top-end Epiphone'.


To that end, your options really are:

- Epiphone Custom, spend the extra money on a pickup and nut change. This will give you a (much) better instrument than the Gibson Studio would be. Downside is the quality control can be random, so you have to spend time hunting out one of the rare good ones to begin with......into a top-end Tokai, Vintage, mid-range ESP or high-range ESP/LTD LP copy. Depends what you care to play: The Tokai is good all-round but a touch generic, Vintage guitars are a bit more suited to blues, ESP and ESP/LTD are more suited for metal. There are also Edwards, Agile and Michael Kelly LP copies which many people on here rave on about. though personally I've never found any of those three brands to be any good.


What would a nut change do?
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#12
Quote by Reckd
Go for the epiphone i have that epi les paul custom with sounds a lot like my gibson les paul trust me u wont be dissapointed


f**k no dont get it.
save up for a standard , or maybe score a sweet deal at ebay
#13
Does the Jackson really not play that well? I think theres a bigger bottle neck in your system right now... if you are expecting this guitar to do wonders for your tone, its not going to through that amp. If you like your current guitar and are looking for a tone improvement, take that cash and get yourself a decent amp.
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#14
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What would a nut change do?
Quote by hell_monkey
keep it in tune better
Actually, Epiphone's stock nuts are fine in regards to tuning. The vast, vast majority of the time there's a tuning problem with a guitar (any guitar), it's not the guitar's fault, it's just that the person who re-strung it did so incorrectly. Most tuning, buzzing and setup problems come down entirely to whoever it was that last dealt with the guitar, rather than a problem with the intsrument itself.

The main reason for changing the nut on an Epiphone, is simply because cheap plastic nuts don't carry through the string's natural sustain so well, the strings will get worn out quicker than with a bone or graphite nut, and tonally, bone or graphite nuts are generally preferred to plastic.

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Does the Jackson really not play that well? I think theres a bigger bottle neck in your system right now... if you are expecting this guitar to do wonders for your tone, its not going to through that amp. If you like your current guitar and are looking for a tone improvement, take that cash and get yourself a decent amp.
This is a good point, and I'm kicking myself for having not noticed it sooner.

Marshall MG? You need to change amp, way before you change guitar.