#1
in november i bought myself a Vox AD30VT andi was won over by the dfferent amp types and that it had tubes rather than being an SS, but now, i run it only on clean and turn gain up for some light overdrive, and dont use all its the features, so reeli, i hate it, and was wondering if anyone else thought this, also it doesnt handle my effects pedals al that well, so i guess i should change it soon so i can get a good price for it, what do u guys think? keep and and see or just sell it?
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#3
I didn't really like it when I tried it either, so I don't know what all the hype over it is about. It sounds REALLY dark.
#5
yeah its good and i ca get a nice bluesy tone but thats all that works for me, and i reeli like orange amps, i tried one for fun last week and it is beaut but they ar expensive
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#6
You can't get a good clean tone out of it? It models two Fender amps, an AC30 and an AC15 and has that Boutique Clean model. You must be able to get something good... I love my AD50, had it for about 3 years now and never had any issues with it, used it regularly live and in the studio and again have had no problems with it. And for the record, I only use it set to a clean sound and distort it with my DS2.
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#8
i agree with Polak, its alright but better sound will be achievable elsewhere
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#9
The Vox is functionally solid state; the 12AX7 in the power amp is basically injected with enough voltage to make it glow so they can say it has a tube. I don't mind the Valvetronix compared to some others, and in general it had slightly richer tones, but it is darkly voiced. I also found the cleans fairly sterile. Nothing in that price range will match the tone of a good tube amp.
#10
The Valvetronix are fine amps for what they do. They provide a variety of FX in a practice amp. I would hardly call that crap. Like most modelers they are good to a point. And most good guitarists can utilize them as practice amps and coax a good sound that will impress just about anyone listening.

Go get yourself a tube amp. What kind depends on your needs and your budget. There is nothing wrong with keeping the AD30DT for a nice luggable practice amp if that's what you want. And yeah, I had a Tonelab multiFX and my opinion was it sounded dark as well. But the Valvetronix amps are some of the best low end modeling practice amps.

BTW, I don't care much for the sound of pedals going into the SS amps I've tried. No reason to think that a modeling SS amp would be any better.
#11
I've got one. You can only expect so much out of a $250 practice amp. Honestly, I feel it's great for bedroom practice (and for the price), but if you want the real deal this amp obviously isn't it.
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#13
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Yeah, those are the perfect words. REALLY dark. I need an amp with a warm bright sound. I was thinking old style Vox's or, when I get 3,000 dollars, Orange haha.


I find the vox to be quite dark, but it's nowhere near as warm as a lot of amplifiers.
#14
It was pretty good when I had it. I had some nice warm tones with my strat. Now that I upgraded to a Mesa...I hardly ever use it anymore. If you really wanted something bluesy, why not go for the fender blues jr? Buddy has one. Sweet amazing tone. You can keep the amp and sell it later...it doesn't really matter cuz' the price doesn't drop for awhile. Bought mine 2 yrs ago for $200 @ musiciansfriend and now it's $250 @ musiciansfriend. If anything, they move up in price cuz' they probably figured it's worth more than $200.
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#15
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Yeah, those are the perfect words. REALLY dark. I need an amp with a warm bright sound. I was thinking old style Vox's or, when I get 3,000 dollars, Orange haha.


Orange is extremely over-hyped, you could get a WAY better amp that what they have to offer for the price.
#16
They're great amps... for a while. I've had mine 7 months and have just ordered an all-valve replacement. Just sick of it.
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#17
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They're great amps... for a while. I've had mine 7 months and have just ordered an all-valve replacement. Just sick of it.

HEHE i've honestly just done exactly the same thing. well its not really a "replacement", i'll still be using my valvetronix as a backup. but dark voicing? i can get good sparkly cleans...
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#18
Yeah once I got my Peavey, I rarely use my Vox. The only time I use it is when I'm in the room its in since my amps are in different rooms. The tone on it is just nothing spectacular. I'm thinking of selling it and buying a Weber Mass for the Peavey cause it's really just wasting space.
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#19
I was looking at your gear, you could sell that stuff and get a 15 watt tube amp instead.
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#20
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You can't get a good clean tone out of it? It models two Fender amps, an AC30 and an AC15 and has that Boutique Clean model.

I just love those legendary Fender AC30 tones...

TS, I'd try playing with settings and EQ more. Try cranking the moddled amp's volume, not gain, and keeping it quiet with the master volume. Also, really play with the eq and such. It's like a spider...the presets arn't amazing, but there are usable tones to be found with time and effort.
#21
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I just love those legendary Fender AC30 tones...

TS, I'd try playing with settings and EQ more. Try cranking the moddled amp's volume, not gain, and keeping it quiet with the master volume. Also, really play with the eq and such. It's like a spider...the presets arn't amazing, but there are usable tones to be found with time and effort.

he meant the 2 fender models (Twin reverb [Black 2x12] and Bassman [Tweed 4x10]) as a separate thing to the AC15/AC30TB settings
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#22
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he meant the 2 fender models (Twin reverb [Black 2x12] and Bassman [Tweed 4x10]) as a separate thing to the AC15/AC30TB settings

Oh, right! I forgot about the blackface and bassman models, I've been Valvetronix-less for 6 months now.
#23
I would say just play around with the settings man.. You can come up with some really nice sounds if you work on it for a bit. I didn't like the presets at all so I just played around alot and came up with some really nice tones. As for the effects pedals, I recently purchased a Tonelab LE and I must say that it does work quiet well with the amp. Once again I didn't care for the presets on the Tonelab but you can tweak it and make some killer sounds!
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#24
the speaker on the AD30 is inferior to the speaker quality in the AD50.

i dont know if they did anything about that this year. but it's a very common complaint for this above average SS. and a pretty easy fix as well.
it's not like you'll get anything for it on trade in. so buy it a nice speaker, and use it for recording and practice.
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#25
I've mentioned in here many times that I used to have an AD30VT that my son used, but that we sold it as soon as we got the Palomino V16 for him. I liked it initially, too, then found it to get more and more stale over time. The V16 was a true upgrade all around. Better tone, and more volume. He loves the thing. Takes his pedals very well (mine, too).

I'd definitely suggest you make the move to the 15W tube amp of your choice.
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#26
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I just love those legendary Fender AC30 tones...

TS, I'd try playing with settings and EQ more. Try cranking the moddled amp's volume, not gain, and keeping it quiet with the master volume. Also, really play with the eq and such. It's like a spider...the presets arn't amazing, but there are usable tones to be found with time and effort.

What the hell is the Fender AC30?

I think you're talking about the VOX.

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#27
Of course it's not going to sound great, it's a modelling amp and is doomed to the land of practise.
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#28
I owned an AD30VT for about two years and, at the time, it was the best amp I'd ever had. I had nothing to reference it to, so it was good for me until I heard real good amps in person.

When it was all I had, I liked it quite a lot. I did, however, find only five of the models very useful.

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I found the Boutique Clean to be lifeless in the midrange. The Blackface 2x12(Twin) was thin with little bass. AC15 was nice, but not as nice as the AC30TB. The 80's UK model has its place, but not in my ears. Boutique overdrive is nice, too, but I didn't like it as much as the 70's UK.

I thought the digital reverb was pretty sweet, as was the tremolo and the reverb/chorus combo effect. The auto-wah is goofy and nothing like controlling the wah yourself. Silly and fun if you're stoned or something.

The noise reduction works but if you use too much, you can kill your lower dynamic. It'll require a hard attack to get past the noise reduction threshold. High output humbuckers might have a better time of it, but I have a P-90.

The footswitch I bought separately made it fun and flexible. I could make it switch between three different amp settings.

This isn't an endorsement, but a review. I thought it was cool because I was more of a NooB than I am now and on a budget. It's cool for what it is - a modeling amp. It can produce a wide array of similar-to-classic amp sounds with built in effects. It didn't take me long after owning it that I decided I'd get a tube amp and effects pedals. I sold mine just over a year ago.
#29
It is only a practice amp, you shouldnt be expecting miracles from it. IMO, it sounds good for the price and does the job, the facts are, you're expecting too much from it and shouldnt be putting pedals through it in the first place, thats why it has all the effects built in... Time for a valve amp methinks.
#30
i liked it when i tried it. even the DA series (roughly the same thing but no tube)
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#31
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The Vox is functionally solid state; the 12AX7 in the power amp is basically injected with enough voltage to make it glow so they can say it has a tube. I don't mind the Valvetronix compared to some others, and in general it had slightly richer tones, but it is darkly voiced. I also found the cleans fairly sterile. Nothing in that price range will match the tone of a good tube amp.



I never saw mine glow, I think it's all a con.

It's still probably the best budget SS amp out there for most people, apart from the Cube if you like metal more, but to be honest, unless you go for a high end transistor amp, they are all decidedly average.

EDIT:

Does anyone remeber the Vox VR15 and VR30? They were discontinued just a couple of years ago, but they were the precursor to the Valvetronix range, as they had the same valve reactor circuit, but no modelling. They were some nice amps, they should have kept them going instead.
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#32
You have to look very close to see it glow, but in fact it does. my new superchamp's 12ax7 glows way brighter than the ad30vt I had. Sounds better too so I sold it!
#33
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Of course it's not going to sound great, it's a modelling amp and is doomed to the land of practise.

Actually, i found that they sound pretty good when they are cranked, and are definitely gig-worthy amps. Mine is now hoisted around as a band practice amp and for gigs, a backup for my Laney.
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#34
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Of course it's not going to sound great, it's a modelling amp and is doomed to the land of practise.


That...and why would VOX bite themselves in the arse by making a $200 amp that outshines their AC series with more features.
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#35
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You have to look very close to see it glow, but in fact it does. my new superchamp's 12ax7 glows way brighter than the ad30vt I had. Sounds better too so I sold it!



I could look at the 12AX7 on my old Vox through the Hubble Space Telescope, and I still wouldn't see it glow.
#36
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Yeah, those are the perfect words. REALLY dark. I need an amp with a warm bright sound. I was thinking old style Vox's or, when I get 3,000 dollars, Orange haha.

If you're wanting a bright sound, Orange is not your bag.
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#37
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I've mentioned in here many times that I used to have an AD30VT that my son used, but that we sold it as soon as we got the Palomino V16 for him. I liked it initially, too, then found it to get more and more stale over time. The V16 was a true upgrade all around. Better tone, and more volume. He loves the thing. Takes his pedals very well (mine, too).

I'd definitely suggest you make the move to the 15W tube amp of your choice.

i actually agree with this, i've not been too keen on the sound of my AD50VT since i got my Laney VC30. although its a great recording amp, if you have limited recording facilities like me. Micing up a valve amp with a crappy mic is not as good as going in direct from the line out of a decent solid state.
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