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#1
Well I did a search and noticed there was not a thread about racism in general.

So I decided to make one.


I'll get the ball rolling on the stupidity of racism.

When I was younger I was fairly racist, I had no reason to be, but I was so filled up with hate and anger that I projected it out in the form or racism.

I'm not proud of my past at all though.

A friend at the time then told me to watch a part of a movie called American History X as it had as he said "A cool part were a white guy owns these black guys" and I thought "Oh cool, must see this". So I got watching it, and I have to say it is a fantastic movie, those who have seen it all will know what I mean, it's basically about a reformed neo nazi and his younger brother.

Anyway I digress, after seeing this I realized how stupid racism was and how it achieves nothing positive, why hate people because of a skin colour? Sure, I hate some aspects of African Americans like the antisocial rap/gang culture, but then again ALL cultures have issues and no one is perfect.

Now a days I have friends from all races and my biggest music idol is even black, so it's a big leap from how I used to be.


I know that post was a bit of an insane rant type thing, but does anyone else have any stories they would like to share?

And don't get me wrong, I do make the odd racist joke every now and again, but I have learnt a very important lesson.

It's not WHAT you say, but HOW you say it.

Please do not use this topic to be racist or spam.

Thanks for listening, I also wanted to get that off my chest.
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#2
a couple of kids I know saw American History X and then all wanted to become skinheads


....they now have a black metal band
#3
I saw American History X for the fourth time two days ago I think, good movie. Everyone is a little bit racist, there's no denying that.
#4
I hate how people say it's racism when you don't like stereotypes.

I have nothing against black people. Many of my friends are black.

What I don't like is the black stereotypes. How people expect other people to "act black."

Am I the only one?
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a couple of kids I know saw American History X and then all wanted to become skinheads


....they now have a black metal band

What the hell? The movie is hardly glorifies it if you watch it all..

Hopefully they too will grow out of it.
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#6
i just feel intimidated by the rising number of asians and indians coming to canada, i tried saying that in school once and got called racist
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i just feel intimidated by the rising number of asians and indians coming to canada, i tried saying that in school once and got called racist

Any reason why you feel intimidated by that?
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Any reason why you feel intimidated by that?


just because it feels like i'm a minority when i go to toronto.
#9
American History X is an incredible movie.

And yes, I hate racism/people who are racist. To judge someone based solely off the color of their skin is one of the most ignorant things you can possibly do, and I have no respect for any of those people.
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I saw American History X for the fourth time two days ago I think, good movie. Everyone is a little bit racist, there's no denying that.


people always say that, but i don't agree. i'm not racist in any respect. i have no feeling of superiority or inferiority due to my skin color. my skin color is a trait, just like my hair color and eyes, and it doesn't mean shit.

racism is probably the stupidest belief one can hold.
#11
I'm not at all racist. I like to think I'm not anything-ist. I'd be so angry if someone discriminated against me, who am I to turn that on someone else?

At work there are racists. I work for a phone network, and we have a problem with 'box breakers', who take advantage of the cheap prices of phones in the UK, unlock them, and then take them back to Africa and sell them on and make a huge profit. Because they are ripping us off, we aren't allowed to knowingly sell to box breakers. So we have stupid rules we enforce for them that we make up, like you have to pay by credit card, and often we say we're sold out of a certain phone when it's not true.

Box breakers are always black. It's extended to the point where every black person who comes into the shop is a potential box breaker, and must have the silly rules applied to them. I usually ignore these if I am on my own because it's unjustifiably racist and ridiculous.
#12
Well, I never used to be...
But after 3 times being mugged/beaten up by 3 or more people; and those people being of Pacific Island decent, I sort have developed not really a racist trait, but more of a general feeling of uneasiness around them.
I am myself, 1/3 Maori, not that'd you know it from how I look and I still am abit iffy about my cousins, even though some for good reason.
I have like 3 cousins prospecting to be in the Mongrel Mob and another few Prospecting for Black Power... My Great uncle is the President of the biggest Mongrel Mob chapter in New Zealand, it's quite scary being around all of them, but in the end they're my family and will look after me so I suppose it's a blessing aswell as a curse.
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#13
The racism problem where I am is a little different from the general white vs. black. In North Louisiana where i'm from we have almost as many blacks as whites. Not that big a deal except the black community here is VERY RACIST towards white people. It's hard to get jobs or even have a conversation without racism being thrown on us.

Racism is the product of one race being told/tought that they are better, or are owed something by another race because of past transgressions.

I believe that MLK jr. would be disgusted at the world today. His dream was equality for all people, not handouts or special privileges.
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just because it feels like i'm a minority when i go to toronto.

So? Being a minority suddenly is a bad thing? You don't see me all threatened because I'm Mexican when I go to another state where there are more whit people.

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people always say that, but i don't agree. i'm not racist in any respect. i have no feeling of superiority or inferiority due to my skin color. my skin color is a trait, just like my hair color and eyes, and it doesn't mean shit.

racism is probably the stupidest belief one can hold.


Bullshit. Everyone is racist to a degree. Anyone who claims otherwise is just fooling themselves.
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#15
Everyone should just mind their own business. That's my opinion.
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#16
Racism is just putting people into a group and stereotyping them. Everyone is human, why point out and label others for their looks? Other things are pretty similar to racism, such as hating someone for like Apple or Microsoft. For "stupid blondes" or brown haired people.
Everyone just complains about blacks and whites and asians and the rest, but there is more to it than that.
#17
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Bullshit. Everyone is racist to a degree. Anyone who claims otherwise is just fooling themselves.


no. i think it's true that everyone is in love with them self, i don't think it's because of their skin color though. people are generally just incredibly egotistic and go through life with the mind-state of the main character.

i think the people that say "everyone is racist" only say it because since they're racist, they can't imagine how anyone else couldn't be. in truth, not everyone was raised like you, not everyone thinks like you do, and not everyone is racist.
#18
Does anyone find it strange that pretty much all black people are incredibly recist towards us whites? They seem to get away with it though. WTF?!

When a white guy is racist, it's a hate crime. But if a black guy is racist, he's "standing up for his rights as a human being"

EDITL And actually, I'll be the first to admit I'm racist somewhat towards the Polish. A little while ago, a polish guy broke the side mirror of my cousins car while he was driving, and then followed him and waited til my cousin stopped, in this case to go into tesco. As soon as he got out, about 5 polish people came out and beat him with golf clubs and other objects. Another such case is when me and my girlfriend and her mum were in HMV and a polish guy literally PUSHED my girlfriends mother to the ground, and just stood where she was, looking at a DVD! So I shouted at him, of course, "What the **** are you on mate?!" and I got thrown out of the shop for that. WTF!
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Does anyone find it strange that pretty much all black people are incredibly recist towards us whites? They seem to get away with it though. WTF?!

When a white guy is racist, it's a hate crime. But if a black guy is racist, he's "standing up for his rights as a human being"


Because whites wern't oppressed by the blacks for hundreds of years.
It still doesn't give them the right, but it puts what they're saying a little more in context.

To TS: Why is rap music anti-social? If anything its the opposite; it reaches out to those that feel the same or want an identity.

And yes racism is stupid in my opinion.
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a couple of kids I know saw American History X and then all wanted to become skinheads


....they now have a black metal band


Did they stop the tape half an hour through?
#21
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no. i think it's true that everyone is in love with them self, i don't think it's because of their skin color though. people are generally just incredibly egotistic and go through life with the mind-state of the main character.

i think the people that say "everyone is racist" only say it because since they're racist, they can't imagine how anyone else couldn't be. in truth, not everyone was raised like you, not everyone thinks like you do, and not everyone is racist.


can you honestly say that you've never thought a single racist thought? Never seen a mexican mowing a lawn and smiled quietly to yourself? Never laughed at a racist joke? I don't think so.

Oh, and stfu with the whole "no you're really the racist" argument. When I say everyone is racist, I don't mean everyone thinks black people are all lazy, and all Asains are smart, I mean that everyone has preconcieved notions about everything, race included.
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I used to be heavily into the national socialist scene and truley hated anything that posed a threat to my race and nation. Then after 2 years I gave up caring and luckily got myself out of the scene before doing something stupid. Now I look back and see it was stupid and have many friends from different races.
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Does anyone find it strange that pretty much all black people are incredibly recist towards us whites? They seem to get away with it though. WTF?!

When a white guy is racist, it's a hate crime. But if a black guy is racist, he's "standing up for his rights as a human being"

EDITL And actually, I'll be the first to admit I'm racist somewhat towards the Polish. A little while ago, a polish guy broke the side mirror of my cousins car while he was driving, and then followed him and waited til my cousin stopped, in this case to go into tesco. As soon as he got out, about 5 polish people came out and beat him with golf clubs and other objects. Another such case is when me and my girlfriend and her mum were in HMV and a polish guy literally PUSHED my girlfriends mother to the ground, and just stood where she was, looking at a DVD! So I shouted at him, of course, "What the **** are you on mate?!" and I got thrown out of the shop for that. WTF!

Boohoo, you can't say the N word, and they can say cracker. You sure have a lot of troubles.
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#24
I f*cking hate people who are racist, why are people racist?

is it because they are different and can't handle it?

Saying "I don't want to be your friend because you are black" is exactly the same as saying "I don't want to be your friend because you have black hair"

Can't people just stop saying stuff like "Oh, he's a chinger, I'm going to go and be a w*nker to him" or "He's black, so I'm to tease how he is poor" (I'm not saying black people are poor because i wouldn't know, i don't live in America) and get along with one another
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#25
i have fairly racist moments,but i don't hate on anybody. like my friends dad says: there's white ppl and there's white trash,there's hispanic ppl and there's spics and there's black ppl and there's ******s.
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can you honestly say that you've never thought a single racist thought? Never seen a mexican mowing a lawn and smiled quietly to yourself? Never laughed at a racist joke? I don't think so.

Oh, and stfu with the whole "no you're really the racist" argument. When I say everyone is racist, I don't mean everyone thinks black people are all lazy, and all Asains are smart, I mean that everyone has preconcieved notions about everything, race included.

Look, that's stupid. Yes, we think those things are funny. As someone who is half mexican, I think those things are funny. The difference between spotting something that is actually racist, and something that is done or sad as a joke, WITHOUT malice, is the difference.
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can you honestly say that you've never thought a single racist thought? Never seen a mexican mowing a lawn and smiled quietly to yourself? Never laughed at a racist joke? I don't think so.

Oh, and stfu with the whole "no you're really the racist" argument. When I say everyone is racist, I don't mean everyone thinks black people are all lazy, and all Asains are smart, I mean that everyone has preconcieved notions about everything, race included.


where were these notions conceived? childhood. did we have the same childhood?

i wasn't saying you specifically are racist. i was saying that anyone who thinks everyone is racist would have to be racist them self.

i just don't buy into racism. any kind hate is a waste of time. different strokes.
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i have fairly racist moments,but i don't hate on anybody. like my friends dad says: there's white ppl and there's white trash,there's hispanic ppl and there's spics and there's black ppl and there's ******s.

You guys are just racist through and through! I don't come from Hispania!

Just joking.
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You can't be racist towards polish people because they beat your cousin up etc... What they done doesn't represent the Polish in any way. I think this type of thinking is what is generally behind racism these days. People associate certain races and groups of people with societies problems, with most of the racial minorities being used as scape goats. Its always been like this throughout history... Why would you judge them by their race instead of them as being criminals or yobs just like all the ****ing chavs?
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You guys are just racist through and through! I don't come from Hispania!

Just joking.


my friends dad is german im hispanic
#31
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Boohoo, you can't say the N word, and they can say cracker. You sure have a lot of troubles.


No numbnuts. I'm talking about them pulling the "It's cos I'm black, isn't it?" card every 5 seconds.
#32
according to the UG mods, im racist against jews. even though i have nothing against them and they're not a race, they're a religion.
#33
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No numbnuts. I'm talking about them pulling the "It's cos I'm black, isn't it?" card every 5 seconds.

Learn that usually when they say that, they're joking. It's a bad joke, but it's a joke none the less.
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#34
Here comes the whine fest.

"I'm so put upon by the racist blacks, it's so unfair - they get to be racist and I can't"

I can see it coming.
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#35
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Learn that usually when they say that, they're joking. It's a bad joke, but it's a joke none the less.


Yeah? I actually had I customer when I used to work in a coffee shop who played that when I said "We don't have any hot chocolatte left" because it was at the end of the day, and well, we didn't have any left. Any excuse and your typical black guy WILL use it.
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Yeah? I actually had I customer when I used to work in a coffee shop who played that when I said "We don't have any hot chocolatte left" because it was at the end of the day, and well, we didn't have any left. Any excuse and your typical black guy WILL use it.

As a joke.

But you should have mentioned that the chocolate is brown, he is brown, therefore it cannot be racist, as everyone loves the brown goodness of chocolate, and that's why it's sold out.
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#37
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As a joke.

But you should have mentioned that the chocolate is brown, he is brown, therefore it cannot be racist, as everyone loves the brown goodness of chocolate, and that's why it's sold out.


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#38
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people always say that, but i don't agree. i'm not racist in any respect. i have no feeling of superiority or inferiority due to my skin color. my skin color is a trait, just like my hair color and eyes, and it doesn't mean shit.

racism is probably the stupidest belief one can hold.

+1

i dont see why people say that. especially since people like me have relatives that are other races. i have no hatred for any race.

and no, laughing at a joke (like in the simpsons movie when lenny says black is the worst color), does not make someone racist. or else i would be racist against most races, including my own.

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#39
I have a dislike of anybody that hates the English as a whole....thats quite a few people
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I have a dislike of anybody that hates the English as a whole....thats quite a few people


According to the above statement that dictates anyone whos race/nationality has suffered a vast amount of oppression due to another race/nationality, I (being scottish) am entitled to have a dislike of "the english".
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