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On this three HB wiring diagram, how does that push-pull pot work? what does it do?
does it add the middle humbucker to any combination? or does it activate the middle HB alone? I'm very interested in doing a mod similar to this.
#2
It will add the middle pickup, full volume and full tone, to whatever position the switch is set to.
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#3
Awesome, that's exactly what i was going for.
Is there any way to isolate the middle pickup, so you can have all 7 pup configurations?
I was thinking something like, pulling one of the volume pots will both isolate the middle hb and make that pot the volume for the middle hb. Is that possible?
#5
You could use an on/on/on toggle to select middle + 3-way/3-way/middle alone.

EDIT: You could also wire the guitar to be 3 volumes and one tone, or a toggle to have the middle pickup controlled by the bridge or neck volume and tone controls.

Just to be clear, I don't have diagrams handy for these wiring options, I'm just brainstorming.
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The only way to use ONLY the middle pickup is to use a 5-way blade switch, or use individual toggles instead of a 3-way switch.

Or you could go really crazy with this:
http://guitarnuts2.proboards45.com/index.cgi?board=schem&action=display&thread=1193269477


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That's insane


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You could use an on/on/on toggle to select middle + 3-way/3-way/middle alone.

EDIT: You could also wire the guitar to be 3 volumes and one tone, or a toggle to have the middle pickup controlled by the bridge or neck volume and tone controls.

Just to be clear, I don't have diagrams handy for these wiring options, I'm just brainstorming.


Would I have to drill holes in my guitar for an extra toggle or switch though?
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Hm...so there's no way of having the middle pup alone without drilling holes for extra switches or making it have a 3 volume/1 tone configuration?
I kinda don't wanna drill holes in my guitar, it's probably the only electric i'm gonna have for a long time
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Hm...so there's no way of having the middle pup alone without drilling holes for extra switches or making it have a 3 volume/1 tone configuration?
I kinda don't wanna drill holes in my guitar, it's probably the only electric i'm gonna have for a long time
There are all sorts of ways. This is just one of them.
The middle is full on all the time, but if you put the switching on the wiring going between one of the volume pots and it's pickup, (instead of between the selector and the output jack) the middle pickup can use or share that pickup's volume control.

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In that diagram with both pots pushed, everything works like a normal LP.

If you pull the right (tone) pot, the middle pickup ONLY will be sent directly to the output at
full volume, full tone. No controls. A great tone for solos.

If you pull the left (volume) pot, the middle pickup (at full volume and tone) will be ADDED to whatever is selected by the 3-way switch and the volume and tone pots.
And it doesn't matter if the right (tone) pot is pushed or pulled.
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I was feeling creative.
This one selects the Neck or Middle or Both being assigned to the Neck Controls.

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#15
series parallel on the middle humbucker addition?
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#16
Very do-able. ... but not with these pickups. They're 1 wire, shielded. The (-) end of the bottom coil is connected to the frame and the braid. Touch the frame while the two pickups are in series, and it'll hum like a bee.
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the bee effect.


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I was feeling creative.
This one selects the Neck or Middle or Both being assigned to the Neck Controls.



Is this essentially the same as the previous configuration, but using the neck pots instead?
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Is this essentially the same as the previous configuration, but using the neck pots instead?
It's going to work a bit differently.

In the first one,
when you left the volume pots pushed in the "either" position,
and you pull the tone pot to select the "middle"
you got only the middle pickup, with no controls.
And it didn't matter what the position of the 3-way switch.

In this scheme,
to get the middle only,
you pull the tone pot up,
but you have to select 'rhythm' on the 3-way.
And the neck pots now control the volume and tone of the middle pickup.

For someone who likes a searing, biting sound from the bridge pickup for solos,
this might be a good choice.
you can set the volume for the neck and middle used together (should be a smooth but slightly quackish sound) lower for rhythm, and go full volume on the bridge for solos.
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Hm..so you get the same pickup combinations as the first configuration, but you can control the middle pickups tone and volume?
Also, is there any reason, the pots switched? The neck pots are next to the bridge pup now, and vice versa.


So..in config 1
a)both pots down - normal lp
b)vol pot down, tone pot up - mid pup no controls
c)vol pot up, tone pot down/up - add mid pup to regular lp combos

config 2
same as above BUT instead you got
b) vol pot down, tone pot up, rhythm on 3-way - mid pup controlled by neck controls

Do i have it right?
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Hm..so you get the same pickup combinations as the first configuration, but you can control the middle pickups tone and volume?
Also, is there any reason, the pots switched? The neck pots are next to the bridge pup now, and vice versa.


So..in config 1
a)both pots down - normal lp
b)vol pot down, tone pot up - mid pup no controls
c)vol pot up, tone pot down/up - add mid pup to regular lp combos

config 2
same as above BUT instead you got
b) vol pot down, tone pot up, rhythm on 3-way - mid pup controlled by neck controls

Do i have it right?
Almost right.
In the first drawing: c) mid connected straight to the output, along with whatever is selected by the 3-way being controlled by their volume and tone controls.
In the second drawing: c) Middle and Neck connected together and controlled by the neck controls.
Bridge controlled by its controls
3-way selects either or both of the above.

I moved the drawings for the pots with the push-pulls to the top, but I forgot to re-label them as "neck" and ditto for the pots without that got moved to the bottom.

I've put the correct labels on them now.
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Dude...your a hero for simply tolerating my sheer n00b-ness
I salute you my friend.
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