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On a moderately windy day. What could you potentially throw farther, a football or a hacky sack?
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i would say football, but that's from personal experience. i know nothing about physics.
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foot ball because its more aerodynamic. plus it was designed to be thrown
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Footballs have more mass, therefore they have more momentum and will go farther.

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Football, both against and with the wind. With the wind because there is more surface area, so more of the wind's pressure is used to push it, and against the wind because it is more aerodynamic.

actually, against the wind could go either way, the hackeysack is probably more dense. But, as far as versatility goes, go with the football
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Footballs have more mass, therefore they have more momentum and will go farther.



too overly simplistic. Using your logic you could throw a cannon ball farther than a football.
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I would of said hacky sack from personal experience.
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too overly simplistic. Using your logic you could throw a cannon ball farther than a football.


Cannonballs are smaller than footballs...
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football. a hackey sack would collect too much drag because of its shape. footballs are designed to fly and cut through the air.
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Whose throwing it? If its Brett Favre I'm sure the football. I, on the other hand, probably couldn't throw a football further than a hackey sack no matter what type of day it is.
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hackey sack. it's lighter, smaller and has less surface area = MUCH less drag than football. unless it's one of those half-empty hackey sacks that could bend into a sort of sail.

another problem with a football is that its mass is spread over a larger volume.

also easier to throw a hackey sack.
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Football, because you throw it in such a way that it spins pointed lengthwise into the wind. Less drag.
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Cannonballs are smaller than footballs...

So if you got a big cannonball, you could throw it further?
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too overly simplistic. Using your logic you could throw a cannon ball farther than a football.


You could, assuming you can apply the right amount of force to create equal acceleration in each.
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Could go either way....The football would lose a lot of velocity from wind resistance...
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Football, because you throw it in such a way that it spins pointed lengthwise into the wind. Less drag.


incorrect. less drag than a non-spinning football MAYBE (i'm really not sure about that because as it spins, more surface area comes into contact with air = more resistance).

that doesn't prove it has less drag than a hackey sack.
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You could, assuming you can apply the right amount of force to create equal acceleration in each.


You would have to apply more force to the cannonball than the football to create an equal acceleration. And since the force in this case remains constant (your throwing arm), it is too simplistic. Momentum is a poor reference here.
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incorrect. less drag than a non-spinning football MAYBE (i'm really not sure about that because as it spins, more surface area comes into contact with air = more resistance).

that doesn't prove it has less drag than a hackey sack.


Okay, in that case, I'd like to see a quarterback throw hackey sack as far as they can throw a football. I'm pretty sure it depends on how you throw it, and it's not as simple as any of us would like to think.
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Footballs have more mass, therefore they have more momentum and will go farther.

if you can put more force into it. but people say "football, less wind resistance" you're forgetting the hackysack is way smaller, way less restistance. but i think hackysack.
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Okay, in that case, I'd like to see a quarterback throw hackey sack as far as they can throw a football. I'm pretty sure it depends on how you throw it, and it's not as simple as any of us would like to think.


I think in terms of the mechanics of throwing, it is FAR easier to throw a hackey sack than a football. I think a quarterback could easily throw a hackey sack further than a football. Grip for one. Easier to transfer kinetic energy to the hackey than to a football. A catapult might be a different story, especially one capable of spinning the football and being able to apply the same amount of force to either one.
However, that's not the question.
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Okay, if we're going to read into it then the question becomes personal. What could YOU throw farther on a windy day? Probably the football for me, since I'd drop the hackey sack on the ground by my feet just to be a dick. It's just who I am

Really though, I don't know. No one can really say for sure and physics is damn hard to test without getting skewed results.
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You could, assuming you can apply the right amount of force to create equal acceleration in each.


Huh? *pokes football* *pokes cannonball with equal amount of force*

My cannonball didn't move

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Okay, if we're going to read into it then the question becomes personal. What could YOU throw farther on a windy day? Probably the football for me, since I'd drop the hackey sack on the ground by my feet just to be a dick. It's just who I am

Really though, I don't know. No one can really say for sure and physics is damn hard to test without getting skewed results.


If we took a catapult to throw both the football and the hackey sack with equal force and at the same angle, i am STRONGLY inclined to say that the hackey sack would travel farther. It is lighter and has much less drag. Even if the football was spun perfectly, i HIGHLY doubt it could travel farther.

It's evening now, but if this threads still going tomorrow, i'll get a paper, pen and a calculator and figure out the range of each using average weights/drag coefficients.
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Huh? *pokes football* *pokes cannonball with equal amount of force*

My cannonball didn't move





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