#1
I'm writing a song, and think that a really heavy riff/chromatic run/brutal breakdown would sound really awesome, but don't know how to go about it so I'm looking for references so I can get an idea.

Something like 1:27 in Bulls Make Money by Chiodos
Or :35 in "It Sounded Like An Accident" by Drop Dead Gorgeous.

So basically refer some heavy meltdown-ish guitar parts.
#2
listen to children of bodom, or cannibal corpse, or kataklysm
a song i really lke is crippled and broken by kataklysm awsome "breakdown" at 2:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVLyp918uYI
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#3
Use chromatic scales and get your drummer to do double kick drums to it and add a cymbal on every 2nd beat.
I'd avoid the cliche myself. Use a chromatic scale, but then juxtapose is with a little melody or something. For example : Chromatic run down, melody fill, run down, melody fill, pause, chromatic fill and then back into the main riff.
I'm not sure, try it if you want.
#4
listen to some August burns red songs they have some great breakdowns, The devil wears prada would also be a good place to get ideas. They are a little closer to chiodos and dd,g than August burns red. try listening to tdwp's song "this song is called" from about 2:05 on they have some good breakdowns that are pretty heavy, but they dont really lean towards metal quite yet. It seems like thats kind of what you want by the bands that you listed. If you want just absolute heavy then i would say either August burns red or Emmure
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Use chromatic scales and get your drummer to do double kick drums to it and add a cymbal on every 2nd beat.
I'd avoid the cliche myself. Use a chromatic scale, but then juxtapose is with a little melody or something. For example : Chromatic run down, melody fill, run down, melody fill, pause, chromatic fill and then back into the main riff.
I'm not sure, try it if you want.


Use A chromatic scale? There is only one chromatic scale: every note on the fretboard.

Breakdown as in interlude right? Something that flips the tempo around, and probably something reminiscent of the introduction music would work well, it is also customary to trade off dominating instrument roles, the guitars becoming rhythmic instruments for instance, and allowing the drums a boost in the mix. ...
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Listen to almost anything by Unearth.

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#7
August Burns Red > The Devil Wears Prada.

I saw the latter, and just missed the earlier with BTBAM. it was tragic.

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listen to children of bodom, or cannibal corpse, or kataklysm
a song i really lke is crippled and broken by kataklysm awsome "breakdown" at 2:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVLyp918uYI

lulz... from Chiodos to that?
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Use A chromatic scale? There is only one chromatic scale: every note on the fretboard.

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actually you can use the chromatic scale in different keys..... i guess i need to finish up that lesson on how to use the chromatic scale with anything.....
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Use A chromatic scale? There is only one chromatic scale: every note on the fretboard.
I realize this. As previously stated by the person above me, it can be used in different keys. As I didn't know what key he was talking about I just meant it generally. No offense man, but you sound like abit of a jackass.
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#12
Use a br00tal time signature, like 9:8 or 11:12.

I dunno, I'm not too into this kind of music, but it seems like any super-intense breakdown should make use of unnerving time signatures.
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#14
^ indeed, they help upset a natural sense of rhythm the rest of the song can provide. i wrote something in 9/8 the other day and it just feels wierd to listen to it, i cant imagine trying to headbang to it.
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9/8 can be a compound meter (and usually is, though it could be the combination of 2/4 and 5/8), so some of the stuff from it is pretty cool (triplet within a triplet sound).
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(triplet within a triplet sound).


Yeah, I've been meaning to ask someone abou that. How's it done?
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D--0------0---0----0----0---0
A--0------0---0----0----0---0
E--0------0---0----0----0---0


Play this every 20-30 seconds of a song.
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D--0------0---0----0----0---0
A--0------0---0----0----0---0
E--0------0---0----0----0---0


Play this every 20-30 seconds of a song.


Put that in drop-D and there you have the next hit from Avenged Sevenfold.

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Back on topic, I say you guys should just have a jam session in the tempo of your (well, decided with the band) liking, and just see if you come with anything interesting. Then from there, you can incorporate anything you remember wowing yourself or others with into the actual breakdown. It's almost a brainstorm type thing.
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Use a br00tal time signature, like 9:8 or 11:12.

I dunno, I'm not too into this kind of music, but it seems like any super-intense breakdown should make use of unnerving time signatures.



It depends really. If the main body of the song utilizes a stranger time signature, it can be all the sweeter when it drops to 4/4 and you can start to headbang! Can work either way.
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It depends really. If the main body of the song utilizes a stranger time signature, it can be all the sweeter when it drops to 4/4 and you can start to headbang! Can work either way.


Hmm, good idea. I'll have to write myself a parody metal song that does that.
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