#1
I've been reading around the forums in search for some solutions but I need some direct guidance.

I'm currently a beginner with about 6 months experience and I'm picking it up quite fast and enjoying it. I mainly like vintage, 60s rock, psychedelic, and blues.

I'm about to go to college and I'm looking for an amp that will last me the 4 years of having no money at all. Ultimately I'd like an amp that has some preset effects on it already so I won't have to spend even more money on pedals later and I get tired of playing the same tone for every song.

I have a 20% off coupon for Musiciansfriend.com so i'll be buying something from there up to $400.

Currently i've found these options

Fender Frontman 212DPS
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-FM-212DSP-100-Watt-2x12-Frontman-Combo-Amp-with-DSP-Effects?sku=483720

Vox Valvetronix AD50VT
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Valvetronix-AD50VT-50W-Guitar-Combo-Amp-?sku=482615

And from looking around on the forums I saw this was mentioned quite a lot

Peavey ValveKing 112 (But it has no effects )
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-ValveKing-112-Combo-Amp?sku=481442


I've also seen the Line 6 Spider III but from reading around I see that people say they are terrible.


So any help will be appreciated.
#3
i would say the valveking. pure tube if at all possible. and don't ever contemplate the spider. or a marshall mg.
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#4
If you are looking to progress and play in a band then the valveking, if you are just gonna have the occasional jam and just mess about then get a roland cube.

Dont worry to much about fx yet, maybe get a wah wah or somethin down the line
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#5
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Dont worry to much about fx yet, maybe get a wah wah or somethin down the line

or he could get the vox which does some decent modeling. but ya, i would really recommend the valveking.
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#6
Vox AD50...
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#10
You might be able to haggle the amp down and get yourself a Tubescreamer or something similar.
#11
to everyone who said anything about the Roland Cube or the Valveking. Read what he wants to play. Also, keep in mind that he doesn't need 50W of tube power.

I have 2 suggestions.

If you can afford this,
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Blues-Junior-Combo-Amp?sku=480512
It's an amazing amp. It'll get you the tones you're looking for, easily. No effects, but I doubt anyone in the history of amp buyers regrets ever buying this amp.

And, here's this one.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Valve-Junior-Combo-Amp?sku=480260
Great tube tone at an affordable price, leaving you plenty of cash to buy some effects pedals. After all, pedals almost always do a better job than modeling amps.

Also, that Vox is pretty nice, too. I have one. The 50W model is very bass-heavy, though.
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#12
Fender Champion 200 or Blackheart.. combine that with like a small clone and tube screamer... and you should be good.
#13
id say get the vox but i like the Vox XL more because the high gain sounds sick on it. But if you aren't a metal player you probably will like the other more.
#14
and if you are going to be in a college dorm you probably dont want a tube amp because you wont be able to get the tone you want at low volumes
#16
Well I just bought some high quality studio headphones that i'll be using for my amp and computer because I do some music production.
#17
Bump ...

So right now it looks like the directional i should be going in is the VOX

any other comments?
#19
Just that if you are a metal player or like high gain make sure you get the VOX XL series because the XL's sound just brutal as hell when it comes to metal where as the others aren't as great for that.
#20
he wants something to hook headphones too he doesnt need a tube amp. Also look into a guitarport and good speakers.
#21
yeah, for 400, you could do with a good multi-fx, like a boss gt-8 or line 6 POD XT. Then you could plug your headphones into that and it would sound great.
#22
Well you could try the Carvin Vintage.

It is all tube and can be played at 16 or 7 watts. Costs under 400


but it isn't sold on any website other than carvin.com
#24
Well vox is amazing but its a little pricey
If u want preset effects this has to be mentioned

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-Spider-III-120-Modeling-Combo-Amplifier?sku=482271
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#26
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Go for the real thing:all tube combo

Well unless he is planning on playing gigs there is no point in wasting money on tube amp as a begginer
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#28
There's a PERFECT amp for you that just came out, so not many people know about it:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-SuperChamp-XD-120V-Guitar-Combo?sku=483075

All tube with built in effects, and Fender quality. Great price, and it's perfect volume for a dorm room.
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#29
to the deathbyriley poster - NO!
he's a clean guitarist with sensible ideas about what amps he should look into (save the fender frontman) - he doesn't need tonal herpes from a spider, esp. since it's infectious.

now, i myself would recommend the valveking, since it's versatile and loud enough for jams, gigs, etc if you ever get into that kind of thing. Although, depending on your living/working/playing situation, the vox might be a better idea. If you're going to be using it in a room with lots of people around, and noise limitations, the vox would probably be a better idea. If you're up for it, however, you could always go for the valveking now, and get a decent attentuator later on (they allow you to turn up the volume on the amp, and have it come out the speakers quiet, JIC you didn't know) - Then you can use it for both practice and performance.

But if you aren't going to be coming by any significant amounts of cash to buy an attentuator, effects (if you feel you need them) then the vox would be the best choice.
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There's a PERFECT amp for you that just came out, so not many people know about it:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-SuperChamp-XD-120V-Guitar-Combo?sku=483075

All tube with built in effects, and Fender quality. Great price, and it's perfect volume for a dorm room.


Wow, just finished watching a demo video of it and I have to say i'm really impressed.

Thanks for posting this. This is a stupid question but is there headphone support on this amp though? That would be my only concern.

I guess i'm torn between this and the VOX

I don't really know if i'll do gigs or not, depending on how good I can become in the next few years.
Last edited by Audio™ at Feb 9, 2008,
#31
Nope, no headphone output. If you need a headphone amp, spend $30 on a Vox Amplug, they're awesome. I say get the Fender and an Amplug, and you'll be set for dorm use for many years to come.
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Quote by Sid McCall
There's a PERFECT amp for you that just came out, so not many people know about it:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-SuperChamp-XD-120V-Guitar-Combo?sku=483075

All tube with built in effects, and Fender quality. Great price, and it's perfect volume for a dorm room.


+1 Thats exactly what I was about to post
#33
Is there nothing that'll let me plug something into the amp that will allow me to have headphones and still use the amps effects and such?
#35
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Is there nothing that'll let me plug something into the amp that will allow me to have headphones and still use the amps effects and such?

Nope. You can just get a toneport that you hook up through your computer and can use the effects on that through headphones.
#36
It's a bit of a myth that if you don't have effects you'll be stuck playing with the same tone all the time. I'd suggest spending most of your budget on a nice tube combo and learning how to tweak the EQ to get more sounds. I would suggest the Peavey Classic 30 (maybe a bit large for a dorm room, but i used a 50 watt tube combo in the dorm). They go used for about $300, leaving you some cash to take care of your other needs.
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