#1
Ok here's the situation, I have a band. We're good enough musicians and all, but people say we need to move around more. My question is what should we do? We're a jam band with roots in blues, rock and roll, and basically just jammin. How am I supposed to present myself other than with my music? Any good video examples of a fun to watch band or any suggestions would be appreciated.
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#3
I dunno about dancing, lol like booty dancing on stage haha. But think, if someone was watching you guys as a whole, and the show was muted, would it still be enjoyable? You have to let yourself be completely immersed in the music and somewhat exaggerate the moves and motions you make. Try videotaping your next gig, and watch it. What you think to be heavy hardcore headbanging may only be coming out as nodding your head a little. Critique yourselves and see what happens.
#4
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I dunno about dancing, lol like booty dancing on stage haha. But think, if someone was watching you guys as a whole, and the show was muted, would it still be enjoyable? You have to let yourself be completely immersed in the music and somewhat exaggerate the moves and motions you make. Try videotaping your next gig, and watch it. What you think to be heavy hardcore headbanging may only be coming out as nodding your head a little. Critique yourselves and see what happens.


This.

It helped me out a lot.
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#5
HAha yeh man I hear ya. But you gotta make the guitar face and move around some. On the easy parts try and exaggerate your arm movements or bring the guitar up close to your body. Then on the hard parts try a little guitar face thrown in.

I suffer badly from this. I can certainly feel the music and people think Im a good guitarist but to me its like whatever Im playing doesnt seem to earn the act of being boastful. But thats not really it. Its another way of transmitting your vibe to them.

.............IduNNo........Good luck.

Look up some old CCR stuff for videos I guess. Even wander around youtube for local bands.

Oh yeah and what JackFlash19 about taping yourselfs is great advice. Also check out some local bands playing simular venues.
#6
Watch and learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWqkUG5r7XU Pay attention to the second guitarist at about 3:20...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lhL-X4Gqvc Same dudes minus Jeff.

And if you want to get a lesson in stage presence, the only band to look to is Tool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOwQSj4jEGs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7snikHYFWpk


Mostly just move how you feel. If you feel like standing still stand still, if you feel like spasming and freaking out do it. It's your music, your show. Don't let other people tell you what's right.
#8
Some bands don't have to move around a whole lot to blow people away. Take Explosions in the Sky for example. A lot of people I know, who have been to hundreds and hundreds of concerts think that they are one of the best bands to see live. Watch these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP09piedtAk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbe8RKfaIjU

They're not doing a whole lot of moving, but if you watch them you'll see they're playing with a ton of emotion; And as the song builds up, they take you with them. Plus they're playing flawlessly, and the song is awesome in the first place.

For the crazy side of things, take a look at The Dillinger Escape Plan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-lxwlgyhhA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFSBflPvfo

You should probably mute the sound though, because the quality is horrible and you probably don't like extreme metal.

Another band that is interesting live is The Mars Volta. I'm sure you're familiar with them since you're into rock/jam stuff, but watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNp95D4MFWM

In no way is that accurate to the song on the record, in fact they **** up a lot of stuff. But watch them jam, they are SO into it that it's almost like they're not really there. It's kind of neat.
#9
im not really into exaggerating movements or anything, but i guess thats probably because my favorite guitarists are Duane Allman and Derek Trucks who both just kind of stand there and feel the music. But you see all you need to in their facial expressions. I do like to dance and groove a little more than them, but thats probably the reggae coming out haha. So my advice is just to focus on the music and do whatever is natural. They only people worth having as fans are the ones who enjoy the music, not who come to see some dude do backflips off the amp.
#10
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They only people worth having as fans are the ones who enjoy the music, not who come to see some dude do backflips off the amp.


I want both.

Does that nullify my fandom or something?


DEP is a wicked band live. And I saw Mars Volta on Rollins... damn those guys are freaks! Great music though. The singer is such an oddball...
#12
Hey guys, thanks alot to all of you, I'm definately sending this to the rest of the band here! You guys are awesome, now if you'll excuse me, I have some vids to study
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#13
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And if you want to get a lesson in stage presence, the only band to look to is Tool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOwQSj4jEGs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7snikHYFWpk


Mostly just move how you feel. If you feel like standing still stand still, if you feel like spasming and freaking out do it. It's your music, your show. Don't let other people tell you what's right.


Adam Jones strolled into my store a few weeks back looking for 360 gear. They asked if we had tickets for the show that night and we said no they sold out instantly and so they invited us to come to the show backstage and everything.

It was great.

Yeah that gave me ammo for my band who says I dont move around enough lol. There were a few times that Adam just leaned against his stack and chilled during the show...
#14
Also, interact with your audience. Make eye contact, throw stuff to them, jump into them, etc.
#15
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Adam Jones strolled into my store a few weeks back looking for 360 gear. They asked if we had tickets for the show that night and we said no they sold out instantly and so they invited us to come to the show backstage and everything.

It was great.

Yeah that gave me ammo for my band who says I dont move around enough lol. There were a few times that Adam just leaned against his stack and chilled during the show...


I hate you.

No, seriously.

Did you get to touch his guitar?
#16
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I hate you.

No, seriously.

Did you get to touch his guitar?


haha its cool man...Id hate me to. One of my really good customers job is to drive VIPs associated with the local events center so when they asked to be driven to a game store she brought him right to us lol.

I SO wanted to say like "hey man mind if I strum this" and he probably would have said yes but I hate to put someone on the spot. I never even asked for an autograph although I so wanted him to sign my LP I use for gigs.

BTW I can say that adam is really laid back, would blend right in with the mellow crowd...as for what I saw, what you see is litarally what you get.
#17
Not everybody can just stand around in a show. I don't know how, but some people can do it and still be really cool. It would probably be better for you guys to start moving, though, since people are already complaining.
#18
Just move around and look like you're having fun.
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#19
i am also in a jam band and have had this problem. I suggest the guitar acid dance.
think of a worm with its tail stuck in the ground and its trying to wiggle its self free, and do that on stage. or take the approach that my anti-hippie/jamband friends use and just say: "were so stoned, your lucky we're standing"
#21
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BTW I can say that adam is really laid back, would blend right in with the mellow crowd...as for what I saw, what you see is litarally what you get.


Yeah, no doubt... all of those guys seem really chill, none of that big ego and **** that so many bands have.

Of course Danny Carrey would stick out in a crowd no matter what. That guy's ****ing massive! And seeing Maynard stand beside him... he looks like a little kid or something! A little kid covered in blue paint...
#23
Seeing people jump around and do back flips the entire performance has no appeal to me.

The way I see it, there's two extremes. There's the bands that don't move at all, and the bands that move way too much. Maybe it's just me, but I hate it both ways. There's a lot of room for middle ground, though. I don't mind an occasional back flip or a jump off an amp, but it gets ridiculous after the 20th time.

As long as you look like you're enjoying it, you should be good to go. As others have said, it's a good idea to record yourself. Sometimes you'll think you look good but it turns out you still look like a deer in headlights.

I don't know if you know about The Specials, but I think they had good live performances. Even though it's kind of old, I think this performance had amazing energy. And it doesn't look retarded either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOOUVH7oWcw