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#2
Seems like a good idea.
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#4
Good idea but its never going to work, people will still find a way round in order to not have to pay for stuff
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#7
i'm glad i stopped downloading like that ages ago,

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#9
How the heck do they think they will regulate all the data streaming at any given time to single out the people downloading illegally?
#12
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Nope.


Explain.
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#13
good luck. over here in the land of the free we are always thinking of plans that might work, not this rubbish.

EDIT:also, in before zero cool hackers reference.
#14
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good luck. over here in the land of the free we are always thinking of plans that might work, not this rubbish.



So spending billions trying to invent a 'space' pen that will work in zero gravity while the russians just used pencils was a plan that worked? :P
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#15
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good luck. over here in the land of the free we are always thinking of plans that might work, not this rubbish.

EDIT:also, in before zero cool hackers reference.


Originally a dropped American idea actually... the British government think its possible though
#16
This will never work.

Just like RIAA has stopped millions world-wide from downloading music, films and other copyrighted material.


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#17
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So spending billions trying to invent a 'space' pen that will work in zero gravity while the russians just used pencils was a plan that worked? :P


That bit about pens is a myth. They couldn't use pencils because the leads would snap off tiny bits and would get into the air and electronics.
#18
its the end of the internet
everyone i know has downloaded illegally at least 3 times
*hopes Government isn't watching*

thats everyone i know banned from the internet
6 people - gone!
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#19
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That bit about pens is a myth. They couldn't use pencils because the leads would snap off tiny bits and would get into the air and electronics.



... yeah but...


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#22
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How will this work exactly? How can they tell that someone is downloading?


From your ISP.


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#23
What about people in homes that have wireless networks. Me and my bro occasionally download illegally but my sis dad and mum don't so how would they cancel the network for us two and keep it for the others. It's a rediculous idea which won't happen.
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#24
It still goes out through a cable, dude.


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#25
"Film and music companies lose millions of revenue" f*ck them, as if they havn't got enough.
Communism ftw.

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What about people in homes that have wireless networks. Me and my bro occasionally download illegally but my sis dad and mum don't so how would they cancel the network for us two and keep it for the others. It's a rediculous idea which won't happen.


They will ban your homes internet contract. So you would f*ck it up for your parents and sister.
#26
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What about people in homes that have wireless networks. Me and my bro occasionally download illegally but my sis dad and mum don't so how would they cancel the network for us two and keep it for the others. It's a rediculous idea which won't happen.


They're not banning each individual person, they are banning the connection. Unless you and your brother have a seperate connection through a seperate router, then your whole family will be banned. If you don't like it, don't download illegaly.

And on the contrary, it is quite possible. If the ISP sees that your connection is being absolutely raped day in and day out, what could you possibly be doing other than downloading files. They can either get a warrant to search your computer. Or, they could look at the log (which everyone will have, unless you use a proxy or some other **** like that) to look at where you've accessed recently. So not only that, if it's peer to peer, they could see who you're downloading it from aswell.
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#27
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Explain.

Well look at every other anti-piracy scheme existing.

Also, it mentions the two most trivial; music and video.

Now trust me, I have seen first hand all of the software piracy which goes on, it shold be a priority. And to all those who say they hate pirates etc...many of you use pirate software every day, could not run without it, it is the base of your computer, without it, your computer would be a brick.

Thats right, many of you either awaringly or unawaringly use pirate windows xp/vista, there is no difference (I know, used to run on one which passed genuine etc)

So, for one, they are tackling the wrong problem, also at the wrong time, look at Qtrax (google) it's legal music downloads (free) sponsored by advertising. I mean sure, I have music I downloaded back on dial-up over 5-6 years ago, through kazaa! I'm not denying it, more or less everyone has done it, so what's going to happen, close everyone's internets? Only problem would be that if somehow the person managed to reaccess the internet, they could download and the government couldn't watch them, as their internet is "off".
#28
I heard on the good old fashioned radio that it's only for sites though, so how would they know if it's from Limewire?
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#29
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#30
I think it's a good idea, but not exactly sure how they could pull it off...
#31
How do they tell what is legal and what is illegal downloading?

Every single one of us has a legal right to backup any and all of the media we own.

Not all torrent files are for illegal content.

It's only a green paper which means it's far from being law. Some committee or another will stamp this BS out before it becomes a reality.
#32
Oh come on this could never be implemented, access to the internet is just too damn easy to get hold of to ever get 'banned' from it.


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#33
If it happens I recon ISPs will be very leniant. They will be told to ban people, but won't want to. They aren't exactly going to WANT to get rid of all their paying customers.
#34
Quote by ChoPxSueY
They're not banning each individual person, they are banning the connection. Unless you and your brother have a seperate connection through a seperate router, then your whole family will be banned. If you don't like it, don't download illegaly.

And on the contrary, it is quite possible. If the ISP sees that your connection is being absolutely raped day in and day out, what could you possibly be doing other than downloading files. They can either get a warrant to search your computer. Or, they could look at the log (which everyone will have, unless you use a proxy or some other **** like that) to look at where you've accessed recently. So not only that, if it's peer to peer, they could see who you're downloading it from aswell.



you could be doing any number of things... there are such things as legal downloads. what about people with their own sites or servers? they're possibly gonna be using a lot of bandwidth as well. just because someone is using a lot doesn't mean they're illegally downloading stuff.

policing X-thousand/million people's computers if they're suspected of illegally downloading things isn't really a viable plan, is it? what if they visit an illegal torrent site but don't download anything? would they get in trouble for looking?

why don't record and film companies look into making affordable music and films for us so we don't HAVE to download them? i don't know about other students, but i can't afford £17 every time i want to see a film i missed at the cinema or buy a new album which i might like.
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#35
Sure, cause the ISP's are gonna KICK OFF someone that is PAYING them to be online. I call bull****.
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#36
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its the end of the internet
everyone i know has downloaded illegally at least 3 times
*hopes Government isn't watching*

thats everyone i know banned from the internet
6 people - gone!


What about if we make a big .torrent of EVERYTHING?
Then that'll only be one strike for everyone.
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#37
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you could be doing any number of things... there are such things as legal downloads. what about people with their own sites or servers? they're possibly gonna be using a lot of bandwidth as well. just because someone is using a lot doesn't mean they're illegally downloading stuff.

policing X-thousand/million people's computers if they're suspected of illegally downloading things isn't really a viable plan, is it? what if they visit an illegal torrent site but don't download anything? would they get in trouble for looking?

why don't record and film companies look into making affordable music and films for us so we don't HAVE to download them? i don't know about other students, but i can't afford £17 every time i want to see a film i missed at the cinema or buy a new album which i might like.


+ a billion

particularly on the end bit
#38
"ISPs are no more able to inspect and filter every single packet passing across their network than the Post Office is able to open every envelope," the association said."

The article said it itself: they can't do shit. All ISPs can do is monitor excessive bandwidth usage, but that still doesn't guarentee that illegal files are being transfered.
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#39
My ISP phoned me a few weeks ago and told me to cut down, as I was using something like 1.7% of their "bandwidth" or something which was for 750,000 people. No idea how much of exactly what it was I was using (he was foreign, obviously) but I wouldn't have thought bandwidth is the correct name.
#40
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you could be doing any number of things... there are such things as legal downloads. what about people with their own sites or servers? they're possibly gonna be using a lot of bandwidth as well. just because someone is using a lot doesn't mean they're illegally downloading stuff.

policing X-thousand/million people's computers if they're suspected of illegally downloading things isn't really a viable plan, is it? what if they visit an illegal torrent site but don't download anything? would they get in trouble for looking?

why don't record and film companies look into making affordable music and films for us so we don't HAVE to download them? i don't know about other students, but i can't afford £17 every time i want to see a film i missed at the cinema or buy a new album which i might like.


I totally agree.

Also, ISPs would loose a lot of money if they banned every single one of their customers that download illegally.
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