#1
Hello everyone. I'm having a cabnit built for me soon (a vertical 2x12"), and I'm starting to think about speakers. I'm planning on buying from warehousespeakers.com, and I think I need a little help choosing which of their celestian clones (Classic Lead/Greenback/V30) I'd want in my cab.

I tend to like midsy and trebbly mid-gain tones, with a fairly loose breakup and lots of dynamics. Past that, I really just want a flexable setup. I tend to cycle through amps and guitars, and cycle through styles too. So, any ideas?

PS: if you have no experience with warehouse speakers, opinoins on the three Celestians they're cloned from work just as well for me. Thanks!
#2
I don't know about the warehouse speakers, so I can only comment on what they are trying to sound like. I don't know about the classic lead, have not heard them, but I would put greenback then V30. Either one would sound fine, but I like the greenbacks better. However, keep in mind the acutal greenbacks are only 25W, so a 2X12 would be a 50W cabinet. What amp will you be using? If it's more than 50W, you would want a higher wattage speaker.
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I don't know about the warehouse speakers, so I can only comment on what they are trying to sound like. I don't know about the classic lead, have not heard them, but I would put greenback then V30. Either one would sound fine, but I like the greenbacks better. However, keep in mind the acutal greenbacks are only 25W, so a 2X12 would be a 50W cabinet. What amp will you be using? If it's more than 50W, you would want a higher wattage speaker.

For now, I'd be using it with 5 and 15 watt combos. Like, I said, I trade amps around a lot, so who knows what I'll have later on. I don't necessarily plan on buying a 100 watt head, but you never know. Thanks for the advice.
#4
(celestion) v30s sound pretty modern... that's about all i've got...
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#5
The Greenbacks are mean. I have a 4X12 with Greenbacks that I use with my Mesa.
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I like the greenbacks better. However, keep in mind the acutal greenbacks are only 25W, so a 2X12 would be a 50W cabinet.


^ Pretty much what I was gonna say.

The Greenbacks are much "warmer" than the V30's, and should really contribute to the flavor of your 5W and 15W amps a lot better.
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#7
Alright, so I'm leaning towards the greenbacks at the moment. One thing to mention: the cab I'm having built is a 2x12" with a slanted upper speaker like the one at the bottom of the page here: http://www.gabtone.com/cabinets.htm. Any reason or taste in mixing a Classic lead on the bottom and a greenback on top, or the like?
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#8
Depends on what kind of sound you're after. I don't have any real first hand experience with the Classic Leads, so I really can't say anything about those. I could see the V30 maybe having a tigher bass response, and sounding pretty cool on the bottom with the Greenback up top. The other advantage of having two different speakers is the ability to mic one or the other depending on what sound you want at the time (particularly useful for recording).

edit: your link doesn't work
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Don't know much about the other two, but the Green Beret (Greenback clone), is pretty awesome sounding in my Blues Junior. It has a relatively chimey high end break up, nice crunchy mids, and a nice, tight bottom end. Its very "warm". It does classic rock tones just perfectly, but don't expect anything like 80's metal out of this speaker. Not much coming from the bass side of the equation. Then again... i am playing through a blues junior.

Great speaker though. And at $45... its a steal.
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#10
Fixed the link. Thanks, Slats.

So if I put a 25 watt Greenback clone witha 60 watt V30 clone, I get...42.5 watts of power handeling?

Anyone with Classic Lead experience? Or even and idea of what it's "supposed" to sound like?
#11
I think mixing speakers in a 2X12 does not make sense. I would stick with one type. I don't think you will get the separation and tonal mix that you think you will get with 2 different speakers. Maybe it's me, but I wouldn't do it.
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So if I put a 25 watt Greenback clone witha 60 watt V30 clone, I get...42.5 watts of power handeling?


No, you'd still have a 50W cab. The 25W Greenback would be your limiting factor. With the load split evenly across the two speakers you could only go up to 50W before you were in danger of blowing the lower rated speaker. The V30 (in this case) would be powered at less than 50% of it's capacity.

Conversely, a cab with a pair of V30's, or a V30 and a Lead, would be 120W, while a pair of Leads would be 160W.
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No, you'd still have a 50W cab. The 25W Greenback would be your limiting factor. With the load split evenly across the two speakers you could only go up to 50W before you were in danger of blowing the lower rated speaker. The V30 (in this case) would be powered at less than 50% of it's capacity.

Conversely, a cab with a pair of V30's, or a V30 and a Lead, would be 120W, while a pair of Leads would be 160W.

Oh, thanks then. I was once told that with mixed speakers, you add the power handeling, and divide by the number of speakers. I think I'll do a V30/Lead and a Greenback, then.

And zoomzilla, I'm really interested in different speakers for the sake of miked recording than stage tone.