#1
all guitAR chords has wrong scales. like c major it says this is c major


|------------------------------------------------0--1--3------
|------------------------------------------1--3---------------
|---------------------------------0--2--4---------------------
|------------------------0--2--3------------------------------
|---------------0--2--3---------------------------------------
|------0--1--3------------------------------------------------ in open position isn't it supposed to be

------------------------0-1-3--------------------------
-----------------0-1-3---------------------------------
------------0-2-----------------------------------------
----0-2-3----------------------------------------------
-3------------------------------------------------------
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#2
you have a lot to learn about theory... technically yes, it should start on the c, but diff modes etc, dont start on the c... and all those notes are within the scale
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I feel dumb =s so when I play a c scale which one should I play?


Any my friend, any.

Whichever is most comfortable for you.
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#8
^which ever you want... there is no right or wrong... but if you want to go traditionally... you can use your way of doing it that starts on c (you can still use the other notes though, as they fit)
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#9
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All-guitar-chords.com seems to generate incorrect scales. For example, when I input C major, it returns this:

Please.
#12
you have a far way to go, the open B string is a B, and the 4th fret of the 3rd string is a B, the same note
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#13
music is math... numbers start wherever you wont to. major and minor and any mode you like just tell you wichi way numbers increase one from the other

just like fibonacci's sequence... remmber that?

where you start is a choice of yourself! scales do not change if you start them on one string or the other. start a c major in c, ok, good... but its just a choice!
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#14
Well yes there are many many many scale patterns. But taking the side of your teacher, maybe, when he says it is wrong, he is saying there is a "better" way. Pedagogy applies to art too you know.

In my way of seeing it, the "correct" way of approaching it would be the 2nd pattern you posted. The 1st pattern is kinda weird because it sits in between two more popular patterns. Most notably this 5/2 pattern: going 2 octaves from the root

E:3-5-7(8)
B:3-5-6
G:2-4-5
D:2-3-5
A:3-5
E:

Now the reason this is more accepted is that as a classical instrument, the guitar has 7 positions(scale patterns) up the fretboard. When composers transcribe music for the guitar, they have this in mind. Thus, too put it simply, there is a theoretical right and wrong way of learning things. Hope that didn't confuse you
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#16
Thats a Phyrgian E which is a mode of C
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#17
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you have a lot to learn about theory... technically yes, it should start on the c, but diff modes etc, dont start on the c... and all those notes are within the scale

There's a lot of people giving the guy **** for not knowing theory and not many people pointing him in the right direction for help.

Check the following lessons for more explanations on what modes are and how to apply them. It will help you understand why both of your examples are technically a C Major scale but also help you learn why it is an E Phrygian scale too.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/search.php?s=modes&w=lessons
#18
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you have a lot to learn about theory... technically yes, it should start on the c, but diff modes etc, dont start on the c... and all those notes are within the scale


it isn't a different mode, it's just showing the fingerings for all of the tones in the C major scale in first position.

edit: oh nm ur right, it's phrygian
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guessing I should change teachers? >_>

no just tell him hes retarded
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guessing I should change teachers? >_>


Sounds like a damn good idea.
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#22
what you did is this:
EFGABCDEFGABCDEFG
thats all the notes in C major, in open position. techincally, i think its a 1st inversion c major scale.
learn your notes. a C major scale is CADEFGABC.


when you get something like that, find the root. and find where the scale is. for you a C major scale in open position is
-----------------------------
---------------------------1-
----------------0--2--4-----
----0--2--3-----------------
-3---------------------------
------------------------------

one octave. the notes you added are if you were to continue the scale up and down
#23
Siding with your teacher here.... a C major scale should start and end on C. Not E, not F, not anything else. Just C.

Now, playing in the *key of C* could use any of those notes in any order (though will typically center around C as a resolving tone).

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#24
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what you did is this:
EFGABCDEFGABCDEFG
thats all the notes in C major, in open position. techincally, i think its a 1st inversion c major scale.

I don't think there is such a thing as a 1st inversion scale, this only applies to arpeggios and chords. Take a C major triad CEG, a first inversion is EGC staring on the maj 3rd. Inverting a scale is actually a mode. Starting a C Major scale on the 3rd would be the Phyrgian mode. E Phrygian.