#1
Hey guys..I just got a new Epiphone G-400 with the EMG 81/85 combo.

I really love this guitar..it plays like a dream..but compared to my other
guitars with pups..the chords just dont leap off the palm mutes the same
way. They dont rise above them as much. Ive played my guitar on a bunch
of different amps and its all the same.

Is this a Characteristic the SG. (somewhere between pup and single coil sound?)
or..
Is this a Characteristic of the Emg-85?

I love this guitar and it plays like a dream.
That EMG 85 is still one Bad Mother Bucker...

Is this sound a trade off for the strat-like playability?
or can you recommend a neck pup that will keep the chords
from blending into the palm mutes so much?
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
#2
Use the bridge pick-up for your br00t4l chugz. The 'treble' pick-up.
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#3
Don't mean to offend but EMG actives are not great pickups. The combination of the EMG's and the Spider will kill your tone. Try a set of powerful passives.
#4
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Found your problem.
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#5
Quote by Washburnd Fretz
Ive played my guitar on a bunch
of different amps and its all the same.


Did you even see that? Geez...lay off my gear.
I know its not the amp..im talkin about the guitar.
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#6
Youre not offending me...I know the Spider is not built to handle
active pups..IT is digital..lol..but its great for my other guitars.

Once again..I played my guitar on a bunch of amps at a guitar
store and it was all the same.

I want my chords to not blend in with the palm mutes so much..
is there a pup that someone uses on an sg?

My question Was...is this an SG sound characteristic..or the EMG characteristic?
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
Last edited by Washburnd Fretz at Feb 14, 2008,
#7
It's an EMG characteristic. I find them very weak, hollow and thin - which is why I prefer passive pickups.
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#8
What exactly do you mean when you say, 'my chords blend in with the palmmutes'?

I think I may recognize your problem, but could you clarify a bit?
#9
Quote by Y00p
What exactly do you mean when you say, 'my chords blend in with the palmmutes'?

I think I may recognize your problem, but could you clarify a bit?


When I play power rhythm..using primarily palm mutes...the chords dont
leap off of the palm mutes ..like my other guitars. They dont rise above
the palm mutes very much. It's the same for palm mutes and single notes.
For riffs.
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
#10
So you mean, like in a typical metalcore-ish riff, when you hit a E powerchord on the lower three strings, it doesn't stand out from the 6 palmmuted notes you played before the chord?

If that's the case, have you considered changing your amp settings... It may seem obvious, but EMG's sound characteristics entail that they need a completely different setup than regular pickups; especially on Spiders (I use one too).
#11
yeahhhhhhhhh....thats it!

I played on a few amps at a local store..(pretended to be interested in buying one..lol)
and the guitar sounded the same...I dont wanna return a guitar because of
a pup..Thats why i was wondering if this is characteristic of the SG.

It seems to have that sound in between a humbucker and a single coil.
I bet Charlie Brown's teacher's name was Mrs.Hammett
#12
Think i may need a passive neck and active bridge....
That would probably suit me.

I just love those wailing solos from active pups.
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#13
Quote by Washburnd Fretz
Think i may need a passive neck and active bridge....
That would probably suit me.

I just love those wailing solos from active pups.

Good luck wiring that. Just get hot passives, actives aren't worth the trouble.
Dickless.
#15
emgs sound great with a nice tube amp, they have a unique kinda "pop" when on clean channels... but i prefer a set of hot passives over them any day... duncans got some good ****, and gibson has some good pickups also
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#16
.... and than again, maybe you suck at palm muting...jk maybe the gains up too high that its causing it all to sound like a mess... emgs have a built in preamp boost, so you would need alot less gain on the amp settings
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Last edited by LPstudioWRz28 at Feb 14, 2008,
#17
I think its hard to say. I'm not familiar with the Epiphone SGs but my Gibson Explorer with EMG's sounds significantly different from my Jackson with EMG's. But theres probably a ton of different reasons for that....

Try an Epi SG with passives before you do anything if you can.