#1
this pinging sound
this happens to me should i do something about this
Last edited by Acquiescence at Feb 14, 2008,
#2
it means the string is slipping. no big deal unless it happens every time you change strings.
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#3
oh yeah its scares me everytime because i keep thinking my string just broke.
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#4
used to happen on my strat alot. Not happened in a while though, I don't think its anything to worry about.
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#6
That happens because the string is too tight in the nut slot and can break strings in some cases. The ping is when the string suddenly gets so tight the nut can't hold any more and it pops into place, when it should be able to slide in the nut to begin with, that ping means the string just got way too tight. Either the nut slot is just tight or the string is rusty, causing it to grab.

If the strings are rusty, change them. New strings will sound better and have better intonation. If strings are rusty or not, put some graphite in the nut slots with a #2 pencil to lubricate the nut slots and let the strings move the way they should.

Maybe Lefty Dave will be along later, he posted a link a day or two ago to some stuff called nut sauce that is made to lubricate the nut, I haven't used it so I don't know how well it works, but have heard it does work. I've been using a #2 pencil for 20 years, and I know that does work quite well.
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#7
Quote by Paleo Pete
That happens because the string is too tight in the nut slot and can break strings in some cases. The ping is when the string suddenly gets so tight the nut can't hold any more and it pops into place, when it should be able to slide in the nut to begin with, that ping means the string just got way too tight. Either the nut slot is just tight or the string is rusty, causing it to grab.

If the strings are rusty, change them. New strings will sound better and have better intonation. If strings are rusty or not, put some graphite in the nut slots with a #2 pencil to lubricate the nut slots and let the strings move the way they should.

Maybe Lefty Dave will be along later, he posted a link a day or two ago to some stuff called nut sauce that is made to lubricate the nut, I haven't used it so I don't know how well it works, but have heard it does work. I've been using a #2 pencil for 20 years, and I know that does work quite well.

Or, it's when your first hand-winds around the post developed a loose snag that the slack string trips over as it adjusts. It happens, and it won't break your string.
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#8
Put some pencil-lead shavings in the nut slot, this will help tuning in general and it will stop the pinging.
#9
I just bend the string every time I make an adjustment on the tuning peg. No nasty surprises.

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#10
Quote by Paleo Pete
That happens because the string is too tight in the nut slot and can break strings in some cases. The ping is when the string suddenly gets so tight the nut can't hold any more and it pops into place, when it should be able to slide in the nut to begin with, that ping means the string just got way too tight. Either the nut slot is just tight or the string is rusty, causing it to grab.

If the strings are rusty, change them. New strings will sound better and have better intonation. If strings are rusty or not, put some graphite in the nut slots with a #2 pencil to lubricate the nut slots and let the strings move the way they should.

Maybe Lefty Dave will be along later, he posted a link a day or two ago to some stuff called nut sauce that is made to lubricate the nut, I haven't used it so I don't know how well it works, but have heard it does work. I've been using a #2 pencil for 20 years, and I know that does work quite well.


can you use a mechanical pencil
#11
Use the softest lead (graphite) you can get (usually #2) as it also reduces the chance of actually scratching the nut material.

You also want to use the side of the pencil and not the actual point, again so you don't scratch the nut accidently.

If you're looking for stuff to buy, there's that Big Bends Nut Sauce (I think that's what it's called) or this stuff from GHS ( http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/GHS-GraphitAll-Guitar-Lubricant?sku=423700&CJAID=10381297&CJPID=1350534 ) that one of the techs that I talk to a lot swears by.
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Quote by Hakael
Use the softest lead (graphite) you can get (usually #2) as it also reduces the chance of actually scratching the nut material.

You also want to use the side of the pencil and not the actual point, again so you don't scratch the nut accidently.

If you're looking for stuff to buy, there's that Big Bends Nut Sauce (I think that's what it's called) or this stuff from GHS ( http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/GHS-GraphitAll-Guitar-Lubricant?sku=423700&CJAID=10381297&CJPID=1350534 ) that one of the techs that I talk to a lot swears by.

Scratching the nut material ? WTF ? could you elaborate ?
#13
Quote by The red Strat.
Scratching the nut material ? WTF ? could you elaborate ?


Some nuts are made of plastic, others bone, etc., etc., etc.

You basically don't want to scratch a groove into the nut with a sharp pencil point is what I'm getting at.
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#14

how on EARTH can you sratch a groove into a nut ? is that even possible ? and even if it is, it ain't that bad eh ? i don't see what's so wrong with a groove in the nut.
i don't think i understand.
#16
Quote by The red Strat.

how on EARTH can you sratch a groove into a nut ? is that even possible ? and even if it is, it ain't that bad eh ? i don't see what's so wrong with a groove in the nut.
i don't think i understand.


When you put enough scratches into the groove of the nut, it weakens the nut at the groove. I've seen a nut break that way on the e string groove. Or in some cases it can eventually make another spot for the string to bind in (defeating the purpose of the graphite and giving the string another place it can break). Lastly, it can just wear the nut down faster than with normal use. It depends on the material the nut is made out of also. Some scratch easier than others. It doesn't happen all that often, but it's just a little extra precaution. Nuts aren't indestructible, just like anything else on the guitar.
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#17
Quote by The red Strat.

how on EARTH can you sratch a groove into a nut ? is that even possible ? and even if it is, it ain't that bad eh ? i don't see what's so wrong with a groove in the nut.
i don't think i understand.

It's entirely possible. With a sharp H art pencil or something, you could easily scratch a groove into the nut. You don't want to make a groove deeper than it is, because then you'll have one odd, depressed string. That, and the string will most certainly buzz, and you'll have to replace the nut.
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#19
Quote by The red Strat.
could that easily happen with a bone nut ?


Guess it would depend on the bone.

Really the point here is just to use the side of a sharpened pencil to get graphite into the grooves as opposed to "writing" in the groove with the tip of a sharpened pencil.

I like to use mechanical pencil lead for this because it's just easier for me.
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#20
ah ok.

i always use a stomp point of a pencil when i rub it into the slots, is that ok ?
i use the tip to rub it in...
#21
It happens when I bump the tremolo bridge on my Ibanez. I really need to get that blocked :/
#22
I use graphite, the same stuff I use to lube the wheels on the pinewood derby cars. It works great. I have only had to use it once on my Washburn acoustic, and have changed the strings since. Have not had to re-lube yet, its been a few months.
#23
Quote by Hakael
Guess it would depend on the bone.

Really the point here is just to use the side of a sharpened pencil to get graphite into the grooves as opposed to "writing" in the groove with the tip of a sharpened pencil.

I like to use mechanical pencil lead for this because it's just easier for me.


how do you use mechanical pencil lead? do u take mec pencil and make the lead poke out a few centimeters and make it go up and down in nut slots?
#24
Quote by The red Strat.
ah ok.

i always use a stomp point of a pencil when i rub it into the slots, is that ok ?
i use the tip to rub it in...


I don't bother "working it in" the slot. Actually, what I do is take a thin, mechanical, graphite lead, and on the thicker grooves of the nut, I'll lay it inside, and just sorta twirl it around in there. With the smaller grooves, or grooves I can't lay the led into, I take a piece of paper, and rub the lead on the paper above the groove, so the graphite ends up dusting the groove. I use a small brush to remove any excess lead, then string it up.

It seems like a lot of work really, but I combine this with a locking tie (that's what I call it anyway, it's just a special way of securing the string to the tuning pegs) and it stays in tune seemingly forever.
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#25
Quote by Hakael
I don't bother "working it in" the slot. Actually, what I do is take a thin, mechanical, graphite lead, and on the thicker grooves of the nut, I'll lay it inside, and just sorta twirl it around in there. With the smaller grooves, or grooves I can't lay the led into, I take a piece of paper, and rub the lead on the paper above the groove, so the graphite ends up dusting the groove. I use a small brush to remove any excess lead, then string it up.

It seems like a lot of work really, but I combine this with a locking tie (that's what I call it anyway, it's just a special way of securing the string to the tuning pegs) and it stays in tune seemingly forever.

but can rubbing it in with the tip scratch the nut (if the tip is quite rounded off) ?
Last edited by The red Strat. at Feb 16, 2008,