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Should be. 15W of tube power is louder than you think. But you have to consider the speaker, the and the sensitivity rating.
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#3
Maybe but it depends on how much headroom you need. If its cranked it will be loud enough, but if you have to have really clear cleans and have to turn it down to get them, you might need something more more powerful.
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Orange Tiny Terror...get one. Loud as hell. Class A wiring...makes all the difference.
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My Blues Junior owned my drummer + bassist at about 11 o'clock on the volume dials with a bit of fuzz thrown in

Clean just past midnight cut through.
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#7
I have 18W of tube power and its easily loud enough for jamming with drummers and even small gigs are no problem. Larger venues just require a bit of micing.
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easily loud enough
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Easily, in fact if youre just jamming in a garage you should still be getting cleans with it.


+1 This is why I may be already upgrading to the new 7w/15w Blackheart.
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Quote by voodoochildsr22
Orange Tiny Terror...get one. Loud as hell. Class A wiring...makes all the difference.


Great amp...

But the "Class A wiring" makes absolutely no difference whatsoever, except as a marketing ploy. Like virtually all amps with more than one power tube, the Tiny Terror is actually a Class AB amp.

That said, 15W -in general- is plenty for jamming.
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#12
with my blues junior, i found i needed to swap out the speaker, because at really high volumes, i was getting a lot of speaker rattle.


so yes, to add to to thread, i think that 15W tube amps can jam, but in my case at least, i felt it needed some help to sound good at higher levels.

higher volume, not needed with just a drummer or a guitar, but with a full band.

also, keep in mind, if there's a guy in ur band that likes to crank his amp or beat the hell out of his drums, you might find urself pushing that amp a bit.
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Orange Tiny Terror...get one. Loud as hell. Class A wiring...makes all the difference.


How much do you suppose a Tiny Terror is? Canadian or American dollars, doesn't matter.
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How much do you suppose a Tiny Terror is? Canadian or American dollars, doesn't matter.


New: $550
Used: Around $400
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Orange Tiny Terror...get one. Loud as hell. Class A wiring...makes all the difference.

actually class A makes the amp less efficient. class AB has more potential for putting out more wattage with the same number of tubes.
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#16
Quote by ECistheBest
actually class A makes the amp less efficient. class AB has more potential for putting out more wattage with the same number of tubes.

Aye;

but then Class A puts out more harmonic distortion (usually) so they tend to be louder for the same wattage.

But the Tiny Terror is as Class A as the Blues Jr. IE it isn't.
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The Tiny Terror is LOUD. Louder than a Blues Junior, I cranked both of them (with no gain to save my ears) and there was a noticeable difference.

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When it comes to 15 watt amps I think solid state just has better tone. The smaller amps and small volumes ive always liked the solid state better. When it comes to bigger amps I like tube amps of course. When I was looking for a new practice amp I tried out tube amps and solid state amps. I went with the Kustom 16 watt solid state and love it.
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Quote by MrCarrot
Aye;

but then Class A puts out more harmonic distortion (usually) so they tend to be louder for the same wattage.

But the Tiny Terror is as Class A as the Blues Jr. IE it isn't.


Hey, you can get as technical about it as you want but the bottom line is...the Tiny Terror is easily one of the loudest 15 watt amps out there. Easily will be heard over a 30 watt SS. Whether it be Class A or AB...it's a killer amp that everyone should at least own at one point of their lives.

Go for the Tiny Terror.
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Quote by paranormal5150
When it comes to 15 watt amps I think solid state just has better tone. The smaller amps and small volumes ive always liked the solid state better. When it comes to bigger amps I like tube amps of course. When I was looking for a new practice amp I tried out tube amps and solid state amps. I went with the Kustom 16 watt solid state and love it.

He wants to jam, which would make a 15 watt tube amp perfect.
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Quote by voodoochildsr22
the Tiny Terror is easily one of the loudest 15 watt amps out there. .



at about twice the price around here.
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#22
Quote by jj1565
at about twice the price around here.


You can find them for around $400-$450 on craigslist....that's not bad at all.
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#23
very few and far between and more like $500+
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very few and far between and more like $500+

Nope...just got off the phone with a guy from Hartford, CT about a week ago. He was letting both of his go for $400 cash.

It's possible to find them for that price...you just have to keep your eyes peeled. You can find anything for an amazing price...just takes some time...trust me.

I bought a MIM Fender Telecaster Sunburst in perfect condition for $50 once...a few months back. Most of the stuff I bought was used and at a great price.

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#25
i believe you bought one. but that's rare. ive been checking NY listings for about 4 months now.

even at that price, it's still a hundred more than a used Blues jr combo.
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i believe you bought one. but that's rare. ive been checking NY listings for about 4 months now.

even at that price, it's still a hundred more than a used Blues jr combo.


Never said I bought one...just said I inquired about one...I've played out of them a few times...

People are still learning about Orange amps...give it a few years. More people will buy them which will drop their price around here.

They sound better than a Blues Jr. to me and well worth the extra $.
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#27
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They sound better than a Blues Jr. to me and well worth the extra $.


I agree, the BJ has no balls to it. Can a TT do SRV type sounds? I've only seen demos, where people only do hard rock.
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I agree, the BJ has no balls to it. Can a TT do SRV type sounds? I've only seen demos, where people only do hard rock.


Oh yeah...with ease. I've seen a few people play SRV type stuff...as well as Jazzy types.
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I agree, the BJ has no balls to it. Can a TT do SRV type sounds? I've only seen demos, where people only do hard rock.


As a matter of fact...go to YouTube and type in "orange tiny terror". The first result that comes up should be a video of a black guy testing it out in a shop. Check out the sound of that one!
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#30
Quote by slatsmania
Great amp...

But the "Class A wiring" makes absolutely no difference whatsoever, except as a marketing ploy. Like virtually all amps with more than one power tube, the Tiny Terror is actually a Class AB amp.

That said, 15W -in general- is plenty for jamming.


For realz
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Quote by classicrocker01
I agree, the BJ has no balls to it.


I'll concur, it is a very clean amp but the cleans are exemplary and it provides a great clean tone to use effects. Plus pushed with a Tubescreamer/Fuzz it sounds aweseome.

^^

Just thought i'd give you an option if the TT proves to be too expensive. TTs are very good though probably worth the money
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Quote by classicrocker01
I agree, the BJ has no balls to it. Can a TT do SRV type sounds? I've only seen demos, where people only do hard rock.
BJ no balls? have u turned up any of ur volume/master knobs past 7?
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I'll concur, it is a very clean amp but the cleans are exemplary and it provides a great clean tone to use effects. Plus pushed with a Tubescreamer/Fuzz it sounds aweseome.
jesus christ. somebody hasn't experienced a full on blues jr. u should listen to my sound clip on my profile. 14 minutes of blues jr madness!@!@
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Quote by ECistheBest
BJ no balls? have u turned up any of ur volume/master knobs past 7?
jesus christ. somebody hasn't experienced a full on blues jr. u should listen to my sound clip on my profile. 14 minutes of blues jr madness!@!@


I seriously doubt they have. The kid who first mentioned the lack of balls doesn't even own anything remotely close to one.

I agree with the fact that Orange amps are much ballsier than the Blues Junior but the BJ can hold it's own when given the proper settings.
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#34
eh i can't really be pushing on a blues jr... cuz mine's got new tubes and speaker swap, and it's even hot rodded.
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#35
Quote by ECistheBest
eh i can't really be pushing on a blues jr... cuz mine's got new tubes and speaker swap, and it's even hot rodded.


Exactly...Blues Jr. is great for cleaner tones though.
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#36
Quote by ECistheBest

Quote:
Originally Posted by classicrocker01
I agree, the BJ has no balls to it. Can a TT do SRV type sounds? I've only seen demos, where people only do hard rock.
BJ no balls? have u turned up any of ur volume/master knobs past 7?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Madsalty
I'll concur, it is a very clean amp but the cleans are exemplary and it provides a great clean tone to use effects. Plus pushed with a Tubescreamer/Fuzz it sounds aweseome.
jesus christ. somebody hasn't experienced a full on blues jr. u should listen to my sound clip on my profile. 14 minutes of blues jr madness!@!@



HeHe, unfortunately i don't have the space or the place to really push mine (Kind of answers the question 15watt tube = loud enough). Hence the fact i have only experienced standalone - clean.

Plus it has both the stock speaker and tubes and i've had it for about a month

By the way i love it

ECistheBest: I have heard all of your sound clips and i'm a big fan. I really like the jam in C
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No, I don't own a BJ, but my lead guitarist does and I've played on it some. Trebly as hell, bass is practicly nonexistant. why he bought it for metal is beyond me. btw, the TT is that loud because Orange rates their amps RMS clean.
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#38
Quote by Madsalty
HeHe, unfortunately i don't have the space or the place to really push mine (Kind of answers the question 15watt tube = loud enough). Hence the fact i have only experienced standalone - clean.

Plus it has both the stock speaker and tubes and i've had it for about a month

By the way i love it

ECistheBest: I have heard all of your sound clips and i'm a big fan. I really like the jam in C

u can turn up the volume knob all the way, and then turn down the master volume to where you need it and you got a niiice overdrive right there...


and thanks.
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#39
Quote by ECistheBest
u can turn up the volume knob all the way, and then turn down the master volume to where you need it and you got a niiice overdrive right there...


and thanks.


Thanks for the tip but i've tried it and i only get a nice drive when i have the master volume at about 4 or 5 and tis a bit loud for my practicing situation

And no-probs, i really like your recordings. I was going to do a jam in A-minor but it is still a work in progress.

Quote by classicrocker01
No, I don't own a BJ, but my lead guitarist does and I've played on it some. Trebly as hell, bass is practicly nonexistant. why he bought it for metal is beyond me. btw, the TT is that loud because Orange rates their amps RMS clean.


Are you sure?? I find the bass rich and saturated for most situations, although i suppose for metal this isn't the greatest amp (is your lead guitarist bold & brave? or a little ill-informed?
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#40
The reason Orange amps are usually louder than advertised is because they measure wattage by RMS Clean. Meaning the Tiny Terror can get to 15 watts before it starts to break up, so it's actually louder than 15 watts. So let's say the Tiny Terror breaks up with the volume at 11 o'clock (just an example, I'm not really sure about this), right when it starts to break up is 15 watts, so it could easily keep up with a 30 watt tube amp.

Oh, and this measurement is always done on the clean channel.
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