#1
I want to start playing guitar, and don't know what kind to get. I don't want a really expensive one, but I don't want one so cheap that it would fall apart after awhile. Here are some guitars that I have been looking at:

Kramer Focus
Squier By Fender Affinity Detonator
Epiphone SG Special

How are the quality of the guitars and their brands?

(You can recommend your own as well)

Thanks
#2
I got a Squire Strat pack years ago, and I have always liked it. So I gotta go with them just cause of my own experiences. I don't get all the hating on Squire, but everyone's opinion is different.
Too many people own guitars. Someone had better go play a... clarinet or something.

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#3
if you could spend maybe 250 you could get something nicer but things that are 150-199 is almost the same as a starter package is only 50 bucks more expensive and just slighty better not much.

if you are determined to play guitar i recommend saving up at least 250-300 and getting a guitar for that price
if youre not sure you going to stick with it just get a starter

Edit:another question what kind of music are you going to play?
my guitar stuff:
ESP JH-600
ValveKing 112
DigiTech Whammy Pedal
Taylor 314CE
Dunlop SW-95 Slash Wah Pedal
Cordoba C7 Nylon String Acoustic Guitar
Metal muff
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster Ash
#5
If this is your first guitar, I'd reccomend an acoustic.


i agree playing acoustic is tougher but is worthy you have to be more accurate to sound clean and distortion wont cover all your mistakes and besides you could play an acoustic in the meantime you get basics and save up money for better gear and then decided if you to stick with it.

for example i play my accoustic a little more is only 300$ compare to my eletric guitar which is 949$ since i dont have to get the cable plug it in let my amp warm up .i know a guy who found it to be a pain the ass and he dint practice because of the hassle of the cable getting the amp running the cable
my guitar stuff:
ESP JH-600
ValveKing 112
DigiTech Whammy Pedal
Taylor 314CE
Dunlop SW-95 Slash Wah Pedal
Cordoba C7 Nylon String Acoustic Guitar
Metal muff
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster Ash
#6
The Kramer is made out of much better wood than the Squier so I'd get that over the squier. I hate my squier, the only thing i like about it is its comfortable.

Maybe that Kramer and a Mini Cube would be a good setup for you.
Last edited by The Charm at Feb 15, 2008,
#7
You can find a good acoustic for that price. Check out the Alvarez RD-8. I bought it as my first acoustic and I cannot be happier. It's so good I haven't bought another one yet! I paid 200 with a hardshell case brand new. Check er out bro.
#8
Several companies make starter guitars that should serve you well for a good while. however, Frist Act supplies Walmart with dirt cheap guitars that are really bad. I would stay away from them. it this case, cheap=awful quality.
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#9
Quote by stefan1988
if you could spend maybe 250 you could get something nicer but things that are 150-199 is almost the same as a starter package is only 50 bucks more expensive and just slighty better not much.

if you are determined to play guitar i recommend saving up at least 250-300 and getting a guitar for that price
if youre not sure you going to stick with it just get a starter

Edit:another question what kind of music are you going to play?


I am willing to spend aything up to 250, but nothing over that. What would you recommend for 250?

I think I will mainly try to play hard rock, metal, alternative rock, etc.

I'm pretty sure i'll stick with it, I wouldn't normally pay 200 or so bucks for something I would never use.
#11
go used! you will usually find the best deals on used gear.
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#12
Get a Roland Microcube amp (like 120), and get some cheap Ibanez or something. Whatever you do, don't get a cheap guitar with a tremolo bridge "whammy bar".
#13



I am willing to spend aything up to 250, but nothing over that. What would you recommend for 250?

I think I will mainly try to play hard rock, metal, alternative rock, etc.

I'm pretty sure i'll stick with it, I wouldn't normally pay 200 or so bucks for something I would never use.


i dont know if you want to buy used but if you do some people have some deals that you could try checking if you want since they get new gear and they want to get rid of they old guitars

well this one for 200 looks decent if you want to buy it is an accoustic though

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ovation-GC057-Celebrity-Mid-Depth-Bowl-AcousticElectric?sku=513292

the ovation guitar is on sale about 41% off
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-TCY10-Talman-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=519673

it depends how you want to start out.
eletric is more expensive since tone depends on amp and guitar
a decent amp is like maybe 150 and a eletric guitar probably 200 or something like that if you can only spare 250 it kind limits you since you have to buy the amp and the eletric guitar and divied the price between the two

for eletric
little amp
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MS4-Micro-Stack?sku=482816
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-F50-Electric-Guitar?sku=516677
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MS2-Mini-Amp?sku=482812

the amp would be temporarily i find the tone to be alright and it will alow you to play in the meantime while you save for amp
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-F50-Electric-Guitar?sku=516677
or you could get the ms 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JuY0yTtNAdw&feature=related
my guitar stuff:
ESP JH-600
ValveKing 112
DigiTech Whammy Pedal
Taylor 314CE
Dunlop SW-95 Slash Wah Pedal
Cordoba C7 Nylon String Acoustic Guitar
Metal muff
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster Ash
Last edited by stefan1988 at Feb 15, 2008,
#14
I'd only buy used if I really needed to...I'd rather buy a new guitar.

Here's another one I found:

Epiphone SG Special Electric Guitar Player Pack


I'd rather have an electric guitar and not an acoustic.

Also, are there any Guitar learning DVD's or websites that you recommend? I'd go see an instructor, but I would have trouble scheduling lessons..
#16
the special pack epiphone isnt too bad. i had a lp special for a while. it was pretty good.

as for books and lessons. check out musiciansfriend.com or music123.com for book selection. or search beginner guitar here on the UG for some really good lessons...


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#17
what is so bad about buying used? a guitar with a couple of dings will surely be better than what is in the starter packs.
Gibson Explorer
Jackson Soloist SL3
Orange Tiny Terror
Mesa 2x12
#18
Quote by elchico04
what is so bad about buying used? a guitar with a couple of dings will surely be better than what is in the starter packs.



thats true too. the first guitar i bought was a banged up silvertone for like 100 bucks. hard to play, but it made me play. when i got a new one, i found the crappy one helped me alot
#19
if i went back I would never get a starter pack again just because I know how crappy practically everything in them is. I guess when I was starting out a lot of my gear decisions were about the image and buying something used isn't as prestigious as a used axe.
Gibson Explorer
Jackson Soloist SL3
Orange Tiny Terror
Mesa 2x12
#20
Quote by The Charm
The Kramer is made out of much better wood than the Squier so I'd get that over the squier. I hate my squier, the only thing i like about it is its comfortable.

Maybe that Kramer and a Mini Cube would be a good setup for you.


You FAIL.

solid Alder= better than alder/ Nato plywood.
if you didn't know, Laminate bodies are PLYWOOD
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Quote by Anonden
You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
Last edited by oneblackened at Feb 16, 2008,
#23
That isn't an ovation but it is an acoustic guitar that feels more like an electric.
Gibson Explorer
Jackson Soloist SL3
Orange Tiny Terror
Mesa 2x12
#25
What would you recommend if I save up maybe like 300-350 for a guitar?


depends on what you want
accoustic or eletric?

if acoustic this one is awesome
the good points about it
1.it looks cool the body
2. has a nice action it means it doesnt feel as stiff as a beginner guitar
3.steel strings are tougher on fingers but when you switch to eletric you be way faster
4. has an onboard tuner
5.if you decided to play live or something you could get an acoustic amp to amplify the sound and maybe eeven put some chorus effect or dealy or a few effects except distortion and some others

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-AEL20E-AcousticElectric-Guitar-with-Onboard-Tuner?sku=519998

if you would like an eletric and acoustic then a semi hollow is an awesome deal

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-AF75D-Electric-Guitar?sku=512561

good points
1.is acoustic so you can play unplugged
2.is eletric so you can play plugged in and use cool effects such as distortion if you get amp later down the road
3.looks elegant
4.strings be more gentle on the fingers but you get the feel of an eletric guitar
my guitar stuff:
ESP JH-600
ValveKing 112
DigiTech Whammy Pedal
Taylor 314CE
Dunlop SW-95 Slash Wah Pedal
Cordoba C7 Nylon String Acoustic Guitar
Metal muff
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster Ash
#26
Now that I actually thought about it, spending 300 dollars for a guitar that I might not use after awhile seems like a bad idea (I can't really afford that anyway). I was thinking about buying a cheap electric and a decent amp.
Are these any good?

Dean Vendetta XM

Squier by Fender Affinity Series Telecaster

Epiphone LP Junior Special


Plus a suggestion for a good, moderately priced amp or practice amp would be appreciated
#27
out of the three i would choose the squier by fender
2nd option would be the epiphone

a good amp

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Pathfinder-15R-Guitar-Amp-with-Reverb?sku=481948
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Frontman-10G-10W-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=481602
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-Rage-258-Guitar-Amplifier-with-TransTube-Technology?sku=481336
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-15R-Frontman-Series-II-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=480668
peavey one looks pretty good

just choose any of the above or

try looking at musiciansfriend.com for some cheap amps that are know brands such as fender,traynor,peavey

dont get a line6 i had one as a beginner they suck on tone
my guitar stuff:
ESP JH-600
ValveKing 112
DigiTech Whammy Pedal
Taylor 314CE
Dunlop SW-95 Slash Wah Pedal
Cordoba C7 Nylon String Acoustic Guitar
Metal muff
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster Ash
#29
I would go for the Epiphone. I had was barrowing a squier while I saved up for my SG and the differance is unbelievable. I have been able to learn so much faster on the SG. But it is what ever feels better. Go to the store and try them both.
#30
I would look on ebay or the classifieds section on this forum but since you are a beginner you would probably want to go into a store and try stuff out and see what you like. Then you could have a better idea for what to look for used.
Gibson Explorer
Jackson Soloist SL3
Orange Tiny Terror
Mesa 2x12
#32
I just started playing guitar a few months ago. Got myself a Fender Squier Fat strat. Guitar seemed decent but it did need to have it's action lowered.
#33
Quote by Steven2285
Anyone know where I can find a pickguard for the Epiphone Sg Special?


i was wondering the same thing..
i think it would look better with one too
#34
I'd skip the Eppy SG Special and get on eBay and grab a Hagstrom F200 for a little more,mohagony body & set neck,hot rodded Alnico V's in it.good tuning thingamabob's & for $260 dlvd with a hard case was a great deal IMO. I've been playing for a month on it and love it. My AC/DC is getting good
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Last edited by twisty571 at Feb 18, 2008,
#36
A couple of questions....

1. What is the difference between the types of wood used?

2. Someone mentioned that I shouldn't get a guitar with a whammy bar. Why not?

3. What is the guitar's "action"?
#37
1. the different typs of woods give the guitar a different tone.
2. the reason to not get a whammy would be because if you get a guitar with a floyd rose whammy it is harder to change strings for a beginner. if you dont get a floyd rose whammy then i dont think there will be a problem but if you use it it will go out of tune.
3. action it the hight if the strings from the fretboard.
#38
I suggest you learn on an acoustic. However epiphone makes great affordable guitar for a beginner. The tone isnt bad either. Usually they will be around $600 for the les paul or the sg models i believe.