#1
Hey, soon i will be getting a peavey VK100, but only the head, would it work well on the line6 cab? its a 4x12 cab and im sure its capable of 150watts.
I was told in PMT birmingham that it wouldnt work, but I was then told in soundcontrol where im getting it from that it would work through it.


any ideas? thanks in advance.
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#3
No there very lousy cabinets IMO. Get a Avatar 2x12 with V30's.
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#4
whats so bad about them?
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#5
Not the greatest speakers and poor build quality IMO. Avatar is much better. If you have one already though you might as well use it.
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#7
so its still usuable? i cant get another cab as space being an issue, and my dad says I have to keep the line6 as we wouldnt get any where near a good price for it
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#8
Well I would sell the cab for whatever you can get. IMO it's not really worth keeping. An Avatar 2x12 isn't big at all, about the size of a combo amp and is much better all around.
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#9
Antyhing is usuable as long as its the correct Impedance. Example 8 ohm to 8 ohm. But sound quality and stablity is the other. If its a low wattage cab at high volumes that head might rip the speakers apart. I've split speaker cones in half before, it can happen lol
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#10
I don't know why they would say that it would not work? What are the ohms of the cab and what are the ohm choices on the output of your amp? I am sure it would work, but would not sound the best.
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#11
the heads 100 watt and the cabs either 100 or 150 watt i cant remember

the ohms are switchable on the head, 4, 8, 16
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#13
Ok, we have an answer. yes, it would totally work then. I don't know why anyone would say it would not. Will it be the best sound? No, but it will work if that's what you want to do.
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#14
Quote by Dust_to_Dust
the heads 100 watt and the cabs either 100 or 150 watt i cant remember

the ohms are switchable on the head, 4, 8, 16



A tube amp is 1.5x watts more then a Solid state. So if the Cab is rated at 100 watts and you have a 100 watt tube head then you actually pushing 150 watts to that cab. And if the cab is 150 watts is that the peak or rms. And i still woldn't run it at 150 watts even if it is rms. Also if its peak then your trashed and it will destroy the speakers at high volume.. 150 you have a shot if your keep the volume low and avoid any mess up pops from cord disconnects and random stuff like that. But hey its your money you might be throwing down the drain. A working cab is alot easier to sell then a busted one...
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#15
Quote by IbanezPsycho
A tube amp is 1.5x watts more then a Solid state. So if the Cab is rated at 100 watts and you have a 100 watt tube head then you actually pushing 150 watts to that cab. And if the cab has 150 watts is that the peak or rms. If its peak then your trashed and it will destroy the speakers at high volume.. But hey its your money your throwing down the drain. A working cab is alot easier to sell then a busted one...


according to the link that i sent above, the cab is 300 watt, so i don think that would happen
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according to the link that i sent above, the cab is 300 watt, so i don think that would happen


Well then your good to go...... But sound quality is gonna be lacking. A cheap solution is get a good set of speakers for your cab... The when people hear it they will freak out and think its line 6 but your actually running some Vintage 30's in it lol
#17
lol and how much would speakers be?
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#18
Do not listen to them... out of all cabs Line 6 is one of the best ones. surprisingly. Amazing speakers, the only problem is people always assume it's **** because it's Line 6, just make sure you get one over 600.
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#19
Quote by IbanezPsycho
A tube amp is 1.5x watts more then a Solid state. So if the Cab is rated at 100 watts and you have a 100 watt tube head then you actually pushing 150 watts to that cab. And if the cab is 150 watts is that the peak or rms. And i still woldn't run it at 150 watts even if it is rms. Also if its peak then your trashed and it will destroy the speakers at high volume.. 150 you have a shot if your keep the volume low and avoid any mess up pops from cord disconnects and random stuff like that. But hey its your money you might be throwing down the drain. A working cab is alot easier to sell then a busted one...

no...just no

Solid state and tube put out the same number of watts.
It just sounds louder to our ears.
Generally, a speaker can handle DOUBLE what its rated for, they are compensated for overdriving amps.
Good idea, but you have much to learn.

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Do not listen to them... out of all cabs Line 6 is one of the best ones. surprisingly. Amazing speakers, the only problem is people always assume it's **** because it's Line 6, just make sure you get one over 600.


You're dumb
He just told us that he had a spider cab.

FAIL
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I didn't read the thread, just based off of some dumb@ss saying Line 6 is crap... just cuz they pooped out on the spiders doesn't mean they suck, MGs are the worst series of amps ever, but still Marshall stacks are one of the best.
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#21
Quote by DSchmitty
I didn't read the thread, just based off of some dumb@ss saying Line 6 is crap... just cuz they pooped out on the spiders doesn't mean they suck, MGs are the worst series of amps ever, but still Marshall stacks are one of the best.

yeah....totally not seeing that post.
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#22
Quote by BleedDeathMetal
No there very lousy cabinets IMO. Get a Avatar 2x12 with V30's.

Very Lousy ^^^ that's what he said, no they are very good, better then avatar.
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#23
Quote by DSchmitty
Very Lousy ^^^ that's what he said, no they are very good, better then avatar.

No.
There are like 2 line 6 cabinets that are worth money, the vetta ones, and the spider valve ones with v30's.
I'd still say avatar compares with both of those too.
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#24
Quote by DSchmitty
Very Lousy ^^^ that's what he said, no they are very good, better then avatar.

Ok spider cabs are crappy IMO especially for the price. I never said anything about Line 6 as a brand.
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No.
There are like 2 line 6 cabinets that are worth money, the vetta ones, and the spider valve ones with v30's.
I'd still say avatar compares with both of those too.

Avator is pretty good, but good Line 6 Cabs are about the same, most of the time better, and we're talking cabs, no such thing as a spider cab, that's a combo and head series.
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#26
Quote by BleedDeathMetal
Ok spider cabs are crappy IMO especially for the price. I never said anything about Line 6 as a brand.

Well then we agree, because the Spider Series sucks ass, and spiders are only a head and combo series... not cab.
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Originally Posted by IbanezPsycho
A tube amp is 1.5x watts more then a Solid state. So if the Cab is rated at 100 watts and you have a 100 watt tube head then you actually pushing 150 watts to that cab. And if the cab is 150 watts is that the peak or rms. And i still woldn't run it at 150 watts even if it is rms. Also if its peak then your trashed and it will destroy the speakers at high volume.. 150 you have a shot if your keep the volume low and avoid any mess up pops from cord disconnects and random stuff like that. But hey its your money you might be throwing down the drain. A working cab is alot easier to sell then a busted one...


no...just no

Solid state and tube put out the same number of watts.
It just sounds louder to our ears.
Generally, a speaker can handle DOUBLE what its rated for, they are compensated for overdriving amps.
Good idea, but you have much to learn.


My apologies just researched it more. I've always heard that tube amps are generally 1.5 times the wattage of a solid state amp and never took the time to look into it. Didnt know they were talking about how the ear perceives sound. Thanks for the update.

Now back to the speaker comment. There are two ratings when it comes to speakers like listed in my post. Continuous RMS watts and Peak watts. Rms is the amount of wattage a speaker can continuously stand up too and Peak is what it can handle if the wattage peaks or spikes. But if the wattage stays in the peak thresehold for to long a period it will blow. So what your saying is correct if your talking about peak wattage but if you have someone that posts up and says hey this says 300 Watts max and your telling them it can handle double you are wrong. Anytime it says max that is the peak power handling so rms is going to be 150 watts. Which should be fine if the build quality is good on those speakers. But its still bad advice to give out that generalization about all speakers... Hope that explains my comments a little better.
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Quote by DSchmitty
Very Lousy ^^^ that's what he said, no they are very good, better then avatar.



Wha???? Based on what? give me the specs of the Line 6 cab that is better than the Avatar.
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#29
Quote by DSchmitty
I didn't read the thread, just based off of some dumb@ss saying Line 6 is crap... just cuz they pooped out on the spiders doesn't mean they suck, MGs are the worst series of amps ever, but still Marshall stacks are one of the best.

I disagree. I'd rather have an MG over a Line 6 Spider anyday of the week. I've tried both next to eachother and can honestly say the MG is better sounding.

And no, there is no way in hell that Line 6's lower end cabs are better than Avatar. Well, unless you're high.
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#30
Thanks everyone, so it will definately work with no problems? just that the tone wont be the best?

Thanks again.
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#31
Quote by Dust_to_Dust
Thanks everyone, so it will definately work with no problems? just that the tone wont be the best?

Thanks again.

Exactly, you'll be fine.
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