Someone explain to me why so many people hate bands like Trivium

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#1
OK, so I've noticed so many people hate bands like Trivium, Lamb of God etc.

Why?

It seems a band is only considered metal and awesome if they are either an 80's metal band or a super underground technical brutal death metal band.

I mean, I love me some Nile, Opeth, Behemoth, Decapitated etc, but I also really enjoy bands like Trivium. People have told me Trivium are NOT metal. Wtf? Of course they are. Distorted guitars and drums and angry vocals. I mean they have some pretty tasty riffs and solos. Entrance to the Conflagration is an awesome song.

So why do some many people hate bands like this? It seems that if a band becomes popular, everyone hates them.
#6
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A lot of people think they're posers, and they just copy bands like metallica.


Exactly.

I don't mind Trivium. Ok, that's a lie. I like two songs by them.
#7
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A lot of people think they're posers, and they just copy bands like metallica.


They sound nothing like Metallica, and what makes them posers?
#8
If you really immerse yourself in '80s thrash (Razor, Dark Angel, Sodom etc.) you will eventually notice that Trivium sounds nothing like them. Trivium is nothing more than one of the countless Metallica/Pantera/Megadeth clone bands in the world right now-only they made it big.


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#9
theyre not very accessible. you really have to be into that type of music to listen to em
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#10
I'm just saying what I've read over my time here. Personally, I like Lamb of God and Trivium, but a lot of people don't for their own reasons.
#11
they are ok i guess, talented for sure, they just really do immitate metallica. if ive heard one song by them, it seems like ive heard them all, esp. there last record heafy sounded pretty much exactly like hetfield. but thats just me, i liked them at first then they got old real fast, but anyone who likes them i can totally see them having tons of fans.
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#12
I like trivium and lamb of god. c'mon, randy gots like the best scream. soo different from just that annoying blargh blargh blargh honk bull****t you get with every other underground death/black metal trash. dunno why people dont like trivium... maybe its because they're "too popular" and their newest cd went into a different direction and everyone is like "**** this, they went soft now" .. I dunno. but who cares? if you dont wanna get into a debate about why the bands you like are hated by the general mass (might wanna keep quiet)
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#14
TS, you are not going to get a satisfactory answer, on account of you asking a dumb question. Please operate your common sense on your own, and delete this crap-pile of a thread.
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#15
I dunno how many threads like these that pops up every day.........

And probably most people hate them because they dont like the music they make.
#16
Trivium are rubbish live, and their albums are totally devoid of any originality. I haven't seen LoG live but they are similarly yawn inducing to me.
#17
Yea Trivium are horribly boring live. Unfortunately I saw them live 3 times.. Why did they have to open for Danzig?
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Trivium are rubbish live


WTF man!?! Have you actually seen them live?

My friend loves bands like Behemoth, Nile, Cannibal Corpse and came with me to see them live and said they were awesome.
#21
Why do you even care about what people think about Trivium? I liked them until The Crusade. It got kind of boring. Now I don't listen to Ascendancy anymore either. I don't really have anything against them though.
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#22
they probably dont like the hardcore vocals and i somewhat think heafy does sound alot like hetfield in the new album, though I think the song The Crusade is quite a masterful instrumental... also I like a buncha songs by them off their two previous albums... as for deadfish, that seemed like such an asskiss wanna be leet post... "LULZ DEL337 PL0X I R TRVV"... oh well, anyway
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If you really immerse yourself in '80s thrash (Razor, Dark Angel, Sodom etc.) you will eventually notice that Trivium sounds nothing like them. Trivium is nothing more than one of the countless Metallica/Pantera/Megadeth clone bands in the world right now-only they made it big.


Cue the "OMG ELITIST CLOSE-MINDED" comments


True.

Also. Have you noticed Trivium cant write an original riff to save they're lives? The first riff on the newest album is damn near an EXACT copy of Behemoth's Conquer All. The Anthem sounds just like Skin o' My Teeth by Megadeth, and I could go on. Lamb of God is somewhat like this to a lesser extent. (See: The song that was on GHII. The riff is copied from Testament's Into the Pit) I think LoG is perfectly metal, albeit rather ****ty. And with terrible hxc vocals.

Also its because they just play that for money. They started with the metalcore fad, then hit it big by switching all the sudden to "heavy metal". They should just play what they like, not what makes money.
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And probably most people hate them because they dont like the music they make.



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#27
The reason they get clumped in the Hardcore forum is because they're earlier releases (which I have heard fully, atleast ascendancy) had many metalcore elements. They also played on the popularized "metalcore" sound to gain a bigger fan base. A lot of people also don't like them because when they first started, they claimed they were metalcore, but after the crusade, they said they were pure metal, and were never metalcore. Now, whether this is true or not I can't tell you. But I've seen that brought up a lot as a reason as to why people don't like them.
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#28
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Distorted guitars and drums and angry vocals


HEY!! Limp Bizkit has that too!! Are they metal?


omg your stupid.... enlighten me to what metals all about you douschebag.

i know its not about distorted guitars or angry vocals, but how the **** are you gonna compare trivium and limp bizkit?
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#29
It's because Thrash is one of the most marketable forms of metal out there, and Trivium jumped on the badwagon just at the right time as Thrash was getting big again, and then claimed to be 'true'. Turns out, their brand of Thrash is featherweight, uninspired and uninventive. Heafy is also t3h a$$h0l3s.

Live, they are OK. They play hard and rock out. I just wish they did it with better songs.
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omg your stupid.... enlighten me to what metals all about you douschebag.

i know its not about distorted guitars or angry vocals, but how the **** are you gonna compare trivium and limp bizkit?

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#31
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True.

Also. Have you noticed Trivium cant write an original riff to save they're lives? The first riff on the newest album is damn near an EXACT copy of Behemoth's Conquer All. The Anthem sounds just like Skin o' My Teeth by Megadeth, and I could go on. Lamb of God is somewhat like this to a lesser extent. (See: The song that was on GHII. The riff is copied from Testament's Into the Pit) I think LoG is perfectly metal, albeit rather ****ty. And with terrible hxc vocals.

Also its because they just play that for money. They started with the metalcore fad, then hit it big by switching all the sudden to "heavy metal". They should just play what they like, not what makes money.


listen to ascendancy

trivium is very original in all of their music... the only thing is matt sounds like james hetfield now...
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#32
And they steal parts from other bands' songs.

But hey, don't let that fool you, they are as original as the first loaf of sliced bread!
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#33
Trivium is mediocre at best. With metal having as many good bands as it does within the genre, why waste time with mediocrity?
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The reason they get clumped in the Hardcore forum is because they're earlier releases (which I have heard fully, atleast ascendancy) had many metalcore elements. They also played on the popularized "metalcore" sound to gain a bigger fan base. A lot of people also don't like them because when they first started, they claimed they were metalcore, but after the crusade, they said they were pure metal, and were never metalcore. Now, whether this is true or not I can't tell you. But I've seen that brought up a lot as a reason as to why people don't like them.



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personally I like some of their riffs and solos, and say, i dont see evile being that inventive and fresh and ****, seems like rehashed thrash... but then you have people say... "zomg thrash is best as it was 20 years ago, more pl0x" ...
#35
Quote by Nivek88
listen to ascendancy

trivium is very original in all of their music... the only thing is matt sounds like james hetfield now...


Bah ha ha because they album was so original.

I used to love them, but then i discovered real music.
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Of course they like the music they make, you idiot.
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#37
Trivium=mainstream thrash garbage
LOG= Just silly

The mixture of bland uninspired riffage,pro tooled to death and over polished production jobs and not to mention the annoying vocals are main reasons why most real metal heads avoid these bands like aids.
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#38
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Of course they like the music they make, you idiot.


I think you misunderstood me, i ment the people who dislike them not the ones who created the music. Im not so good in english im sorry.
#39
Guess they're just a little too mainstream for some people I guess. I love them because of his vocals, they have a cleaner texture than old Hetfield's. They're solos aren't too great though, mainly just wanking.
#40
Trivium = too many riffs are based off of Metallica and other thrash/death bands...and LoG...just suck I am sorry. They are horrible, Chris Adler is the hero of the band, though. He has great groove and technique...but MArk Morton and the other guitarist (name escapes) are very very overrated and limited guitarists...I mean drop-tune riffs and pointless solos...yay! (btw, if you think I think solos are pointless -1 fail)
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