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I've been playing guitar for over two years now, and I've only played for myself. However, the resturaunt that I work at is getting a new building and my boss wants me to start a house band.

I was honored for him to ask this of me, but there is one problem; I have a sucky setup. I have a good Fender, apart from its feedback (which I hope can be fixed), but I have a pretty bad amp. It is a spider III 150, and Its pretty much an oversized practice amp. I bought it when I didn't know much about amps, and now I regret it. I can't get the tones I want out of it.

I've been looking at getting a tube combo amp. I love the sound of a tube amp, and I don't need some huge stack for this place. I've been looking at a Peavey Valveking 212, but I need some opinions. I don't have a good guitar store around here where I can check one out.

Can the Peavey Valveking 212 cover a large variety of sounds and tones? Can it cover softer, more relaxed stuff to metal? Im looking for great tone and versatility.

Ill have around 1000$ once I get my income taxes, so if anyone thinks there is something better in that price range for what I am looking for, please suggest it. I was hoping to buy a better guitar later as well, but that is another time and another post

Thanks!

Edit:

Steven Seagull and Unsigned Records have recomended the Traynor Custom Valve 50BLUE YCV50BLUE. Is this the best choice?

or should I put a little bit more into the raynor Custom Valve 80 YCV80? I don't know if that has a better tone.

Thanks again!
Last edited by cccasey14 at Feb 16, 2008,
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I have a VK 212, the cleans are great, you should have no problem there. The distortion is really up to your taste, i got a really good rhythm tone, but im finding it hard to find a good lead, but ill get there. I'm sure with a good OD pedal, you'll be able to get a killler lead, thats what im investing in next
#3
A Peavy Classic 50? That would be good as long as you don't play metal.
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I have a VK 212, the cleans are great, you should have no problem there. The distortion is really up to your taste, i got a really good rhythm tone, but im finding it hard to find a good lead, but ill get there. I'm sure with a good OD pedal, you'll be able to get a killler lead, thats what im investing in next


Yeah, I'm mainly a rhythm player myself, but hope to become a good lead player eventually

Thats good news then, because this thing is cheap compared to others
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A Peavy Classic 50? That would be good as long as you don't play metal.


I do play some metal. Not that much, though
#7
Peavey classic 30. 30 tube watts is very loud.

What bands are you into?
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Peavey classic 30. 30 tube watts is very loud.

What bands are you into?


GNR, Coheed and Cambria, Killers, Metallica, All That Remains, Weezer

Would like to cover all those types of sounds, or as close as possible
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look into some traynors, like the ycv40 and ycv50 blue. i hear they're fantastic from owners and sound clips and should cover those bases really well.

edit: ^ argh
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Yeah, I'm mainly a rhythm player myself, but hope to become a good lead player eventually

Thats good news then, because this thing is cheap compared to others

yea, i have a valveking 212 also... i have no complaints about it....its got nice distortion, and cleans. for what you need it for, it sounds like it should be just fine.
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Forget the Valveking with your budget - Traynor YC50 is what you want.


Can you give me a Link? I can't find one on google.
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Can you give me a Link? I can't find one on google.

already did...

...I edited my post
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look into some traynors, like the ycv40 and ycv50 blue. i hear they're fantastic from owners and sound clips and should cover those bases really well.

edit: ^ argh


Those are starting to sound good. Same as before, do you know of any links?
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Those are starting to sound good. Same as before, do you know of any links?

haha, yeah steven seagull has the link to the one we're talking about
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Looking at that Traynor, it seems to be very good. I can also hook it up to a cab if i need more power, and reviews say it is very versatile.

Is this for sure better than the Valveking? If so, this might be what I get
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It's a nicer sounding amp than the Valveking IMO and also better made - if you're just playing in a restaurant I doubt you'll need any more power, it'll easily do a pub gig un-miced.

To be honest the 80 watter is overkill unless you're going to be playing big venues without a PA.
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ah, yeah just stick with the 50watter. it's gonna be insanely loud anyway. my amp is 85watts and i've never put it past 3 in a band setting.
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I was thinking the bigger one because of those sound clips from the link, and its only less than a hundred more for it
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yeah, even though it's $100 more, you're not gonna need it... ever haha.
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ha, it's okay, honestly i haven't played either, so maybe they do have different tonal differences. i've only heard the ycv50blue and it was great, so that's why i'm urging that one ahah.
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#26
listen to those clips aon MF, and see if you like those better

please lol I only want the best for my money
#27
oh jeeze haha. the soundclips there are usually post eq'd so the actual tone of the amp is a bit different, but if you were to make recordings, you could make it sound like that.

i'd still go with the ycv50 blue because:

1) it could most likely capture the same sounds as the 80watt one
2) it's lighter, having only 1 speaker
3) it's 1 vintage 30 speaker is of higher quality than the 2 mediocre speakers they put in the custom valve 80

so you're really getting higher quality for less money with the ycv50 blue.
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Ok then, I think Im gonna stick with it then. It can handle metal, right?
#29
on it's own, it could almost get to metal levels. you'd probably want an OD pedal to boost it anyway, but people have done metal with far less

this guy has a ycv40, and the first clip is kinda heavy.
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#31
is that a serious question?

if so, no the metal zone will just add tinny muddy coloration to your tone. you need something that a) doesn't sound awful ( ) and b) doesn't color your tone, but enhances it.

that's what an overdrive pedal is for. the metal zone is a distortion pedal.

have a look at tubescreamer-type overdrives, they'll get the job done.
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is that a serious question?

if so, no the metal zone will just add tinny muddy coloration to your tone. you need something that a) doesn't sound awful ( ) and b) doesn't color your tone, but enhances it.

that's what an overdrive pedal is for. the metal zone is a distortion pedal.

have a look at tubescreamer-type overdrives, they'll get the job done.


lol my bad. I don't know much about effects
#33
A Traynor YCV50Blue and good OD pedal fits right into around $1000 (probably less, in fact). For ODs, I'd reccomend a Fulltone OCD, or some kind of Maxon. But there are also many other choices.

Oh, and the YCV50Blue will be plenty loud for what you need. It's a great sounding, versatile amp that's built like a tank. It's my next amp for sure.
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#34
EFX Lesson for you right now. Analog > digital. There ya go. that means, Boss does not make the best efx. Your gonna want a fulltone OCD or a Damage control solid metal to get more grind, but the OCD would be best choice. That will drive the Traynor to nice metal levels
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EFX Lesson for you right now. Analog > digital. There ya go. that means, Boss does not make the best efx. Your gonna want a fulltone OCD or a Damage control solid metal to get more grind, but the OCD would be best choice. That will drive the Traynor to nice metal levels


Thanks for the advice! (Now im gonna get rid of the ones
I have )

So the blue will have the better tone than the other one for sure?

Any other Suggestions?
#36
you could also look at a peavey 5150 (it has been renamed the 6505, but if you search 5150 on ebay you can get it at cheaper prices), or perhaps a mesa f-30...
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you could also look at a peavey 5150 (it has been renamed the 6505, but if you search 5150 on ebay you can get it at cheaper prices), or perhaps a mesa f-30...


What styles does that cover?
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the 5150 is great for Heavy rock. The cleans are not exuberent, however...


Oh I was wanting good cleans too. Thanks for the suggestion though, I want as many as possible
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