#1
Hi guys. I am going to be looking for a new guitar this summer. I just started playing, ive been taking lessons since october and i am really enjoying it. I currently have an ESP LTP M50. Its decent for starting out but i am really excited about getting a new and better guitar. I love the Les Paul Body Style so that was what i was looking for. I pretty much have it narrowed down between two guitars, the Epiphone Les Paul Ultra II in the Midnight Black or the EPD LTD EC1000 in the Vintage Black or See-through Blue. I play mainly hard rock and metal and my favorite bands are guns n roses, metallica, testament and iced earth but i do not want to pigeon hole myself into just playing those styles so i want a guitar that is versitile. I like the active EMG's on the ESP but i like the idea of the Nanomag pickup on the EPI. Whats the opinion on these two guitars? I know the EC1000 tends to get great reviews, how does it compare to the Epiphone Les Paul Ultra II? What are your reasons for liking one over the other? Thanks guys. Here are links to the guitars on Musicians Friend:

Epiphone Les Paul Utra II

ESP LTD EC1000
- - Dave - -

Gear:

ESP LTD EC-1000 Amber Sunburst w/Duncans
Roland 20W Cube Amp

Want:
New tube amp.....
#2
Between those two, the EC1000 ftw. amazing guitar.
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#4
They aren't even in the same league. The LTD for sure!
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#6
Thanks guys but tell me, WHY is it better?
- - Dave - -

Gear:

ESP LTD EC-1000 Amber Sunburst w/Duncans
Roland 20W Cube Amp

Want:
New tube amp.....
#8
The ultra II is a hollow body and would not fit for you. If you like metal then the ESP is the way to go!
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#9
The ESP/LTD hands down. Better woods, better (IMHO) neck, better electronics... Just all around a better guitar!
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#10
the esp will blow away anything by epiphone. First you get EMGs. if you have a good amp prefferably tube. it will sound like sex coming out of the speaker. (thats a good thing). The quality is a lot better. The specs are better. I have the Ec-1000 in gloss black. Its amazing. I would recommend it to anyone.
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#11


THERE"S NO DESICION TO BE MADE. Are you kidding?? ESP. jeez...

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the esp will blow away anything by epiphone. First you get EMGs. if you have a good amp prefferably tube. it will sound like sex coming out of the speaker. (thats a good thing). The quality is a lot better. The specs are better. I have the Ec-1000 in gloss black. Its amazing. I would recommend it to anyone.

Hey bud, nice guitar hehehe.
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#12
The LTD blows the EPI out of the agua. IMO
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#13
If versitility is what you're after, get the EC with the Duncan pickups. Definitely the EC over the Epi though.
#14
i loved the epi LP Ultra when i played it, covered all the bases well, and was comfortable as well...but jeez...that LTD is a great guitar....this is most deffinatly a case where you'd have to play both i think, i hate emg's, so it'd be between the LTD with duncans or the Epi with me.
#15
Thanks guys. I went to Guitar Center today and played the EPI. It sounded great clean and decent with distortion. The quality of the actual guitar was not all that great though. The inlays had large gaps around them, there were two runs in the stain on the back of the neck and the knobs felt a bit cheap. SInce they dont sell ESPs i went to my local independent guitar shop, Fat Cat Guitars in Carpentersville IL (if anyone lives in Chicago this is a place to check out, great selection and fantastic staff) and played the EC1000. I have to say, the EC1000 blew the EPI out of the water. Those pickups are great and the EMG60 did not sound bad at all clean. I was really impressed. My better quality too. They had it in the red which was nice but im thinking of either the blue or vintage black. Thanks guys, i appreciate the help.
- - Dave - -

Gear:

ESP LTD EC-1000 Amber Sunburst w/Duncans
Roland 20W Cube Amp

Want:
New tube amp.....
Last edited by DLesko at Feb 17, 2008,
#16
wow, the epi was that bad? glad you liked the ltd, it's an f'n awesome guitar in my opinion, hpe you get one you like
#17
Yeah, i was actually quite surprised at the quality of the EPI guitar. Sounded niced but......
- - Dave - -

Gear:

ESP LTD EC-1000 Amber Sunburst w/Duncans
Roland 20W Cube Amp

Want:
New tube amp.....
#20
I'm surprised you'd even be considering the Ultra II (or even just the regular Ultra) if you play mostly metal and are looking at any ESP or LTD guitar.

The Epi Ultra/Ultra II guitars are meant for country, blues, pop, and up to pretty standard rock. They're really not meant for anything harder than say, Rolling Stones or early Aerosmith at most - they're basically meant for everything that any other semi-hollowbody would be used for. The Ultra II especially, is a pretty specialised instrument.


And EC-1000 isn't much of a comparison with any Epi anyway. The Epi Elitists are better than it, but will cost several hundred more; the production-level (regular, non-Elitist) Epi guitars are worse than it, but all cost a couple of hundred less too.
#21
i would choose the EC myself with duncans though, jb in the bridge and either a 59' or the jazz in the neck depending on the style/sound you are going for.
#22
Quote by DLesko
Hi guys. I am going to be looking for a new guitar this summer. I just started playing, ive been taking lessons since october and i am really enjoying it. I currently have an ESP LTP M50. Its decent for starting out but i am really excited about getting a new and better guitar. I love the Les Paul Body Style so that was what i was looking for. I pretty much have it narrowed down between two guitars, the Epiphone Les Paul Ultra II in the Midnight Black or the EPD LTD EC1000 in the Vintage Black or See-through Blue. I play mainly hard rock and metal and my favorite bands are guns n roses, metallica, testament and iced earth but i do not want to pigeon hole myself into just playing those styles so i want a guitar that is versitile. I like the active EMG's on the ESP but i like the idea of the Nanomag pickup on the EPI. Whats the opinion on these two guitars? I know the EC1000 tends to get great reviews, how does it compare to the Epiphone Les Paul Ultra II? What are your reasons for liking one over the other? Thanks guys. Here are links to the guitars on Musicians Friend:

Epiphone Les Paul Utra II

ESP LTD EC1000


Dude, you've been taking lessons for 8 months. your probably not good enough to get a new guitar yet. if you dont like your tone, just put in some seymour duncans.
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#23
Quote by les_paul_ultra1
Dude, you've been taking lessons for 8 months. your probably not good enough to get a new guitar yet. if you dont like your tone, just put in some seymour duncans.


So what if you perceive him as 'not good enough' to get a new guitar? If he wants to get a new guitar, then let him be.
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#24
Quote by les_paul_ultra1
Dude, you've been taking lessons for 8 months. your probably not good enough to get a new guitar yet. if you dont like your tone, just put in some seymour duncans.


That advice is idiotic. Not good enough for a good guitar? Bullshit. If he wants a new guitar he can get a new guitar.

Also, where did you learn to count? October to February is not eight months.
#25
the only thing i have against the ec1000 is the abalone binding. too sparkly for my tastes
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#26
Good thing you bought the ltd, or you would be gayer than 2 men having sex... jk

Bought an epi custom g400 with the 3 pickups and i regret that purchase, I should go kill myself because i could've gotten a much better guitar. I got an ltd dj600 and it completely blows any epiphone/gibson i have played. I am never buying epiphone again, esp/ltd/ibanez now XD
#27
Wow i didn't know that ESP made a LP so good that people loved here. I might try one out to see how much better it is than an Epiphone lol xD
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#28
Quote by les_paul_ultra1
Dude, you've been taking lessons for 8 months. your probably not good enough to get a new guitar yet. if you dont like your tone, just put in some seymour duncans.


Yes, i have been only playing for a few months but why would that matter if i wanted a new guitar? Makes no sense. Who gives a **** how long i have been playing or how good i am. I am currently taking lessons and will continue to do so and i am in the mood for a new guitar
- - Dave - -

Gear:

ESP LTD EC-1000 Amber Sunburst w/Duncans
Roland 20W Cube Amp

Want:
New tube amp.....
#29
yo i want to get a esp 1000 or a epihone les paul plus please reply quickly
#31
Quote by DLesko
Thanks guys. I went to Guitar Center today and played the EPI. It sounded great clean and decent with distortion. The quality of the actual guitar was not all that great though. The inlays had large gaps around them, there were two runs in the stain on the back of the neck and the knobs felt a bit cheap. SInce they dont sell ESPs i went to my local independent guitar shop, Fat Cat Guitars in Carpentersville IL (if anyone lives in Chicago this is a place to check out, great selection and fantastic staff) and played the EC1000. I have to say, the EC1000 blew the EPI out of the water. Those pickups are great and the EMG60 did not sound bad at all clean. I was really impressed. My better quality too. They had it in the red which was nice but im thinking of either the blue or vintage black. Thanks guys, i appreciate the help.

all floor guitars at GC are crap. i played my friends rg2550z at his house and it was perfect and i played one at GC and there was a cracked neck and one of the lockers were missing. never base a judgement on a guitar when you play it at GC. that being said................................get the goddamn LTD
#32
^ Ya floor models are so beat up, i've played $3000 guitars that have peoples names scratched into them.
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