#1
Okay, I've been listening to them lately and found out that they are nothing near what people hype them up to be. I mean all I've heard for the past hour or two is the same recycled riff in some pretty confusing times I will admit. Okay, all I know is that this band is nothing near what I expected...anyone else have this problem with this band? Also, the vocalist sounds like a pathetic hxc screamer...but the drummer is pretty funky.

P.S.: I am awaiting a massive flame, as I know there are plenty of Meshuggah fans out there...

EDIT: if this is in the wrong forum, please move it. If you can't move it shuddap.
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#2
What you have stumbled on is called an OPINION

In this world of OPINIONS you have people who's views and beliefs are different then each others due to everyones grand uniqueness and special personality. You may not like apples and love oranges, but I love apples and dislike oranges. Doesn't mean we still cant be friends!




Also, fuck off.
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but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
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Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
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#3
Quote by Slaytanic1993
anyone else have this problem with this band?


No.
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#5
well, if I put it there...huge annoyance will come like "you're too weak-minded for this metal" or "too advanced"...because, there are so many other bands/musicians who eat them alive..and I don't feel like getting around fanboys
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#7
I mean no disrespect to you, Makkis...people hate on my favorite bands (Slayer and Opeth) all the time because they are nothing alike and therefore I suck for liking both
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#8
Quote by VampireGoldfish
What you have stumbled on is called an OPINION

In this world of OPINIONS you have people who's views and beliefs are different then each others due to everyones grand uniqueness and special personality. You may not like apples and love oranges, but I love apples and dislike oranges. Doesn't mean we still cant be friends!




Also, fuck off.

You are also ignoring his opinion. He simply stated that he thinks they are overrated, and that they seem to recycle a lot of riffs. There's nothing wrong with having a discussion about Meshuggah, otherwise you're an ignorant.
#9
Quote by Philatanus
You are also ignoring his opinion. He simply stated that he thinks they are overrated, and that they seem to recycle a lot of riffs. There's nothing wrong with having a discussion about Meshuggah, otherwise you're an ignorant.



Nice job on completely missing the point!

You people never cease to amaze me.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
Last edited by VampireGoldfish at Feb 18, 2008,
#10
this is, of course, just my opinion- but personally i think Meshuggah are amazing. A one of a kind band that many have been influenced by and tried to copy, but none who have matched their amazing sense of rhythm within a metal setting.

Of course not everyone will appreciate what they're doing. But... that's their loss.
#11
I had trouble listening to them at first, but I didn't dismiss them and I listened more and it later it just clicked. If I dismissed bands after the first listen I probably wouldn't be listening to metal right now tbh.
#12
Also, just to contribute, I love Meshuggah.

I listen to Chaosphere all the time.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#13
well, trust me...I've been listening to them (attempting to) for awhile in between my normal playlist and I just can't click, and the reasons are in my starter...I like the drumming and it ends there
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#14
Quote by VampireGoldfish
Nice job on completely missing the point!

You people never seize to amaze me.


Cease, damnit, cease!

Meshuggah = win.
#15
They seem pretty cool. I only just started listening to Chaosphere, I can only listen to a few tracks at a time before it starts to blend.

I guess we'll see if I like them or not. It takes time.
Who dat?
#16
Slaytanic1993 listen to them more. It will grow on you.

Quote by VampireGoldfish
Also, just to contribute, I love Meshuggah.

I listen to Chaosphere all the time.


Me too. What about "Nothing" ??

Quote by VampireGoldfish
What you have stumbled on is called an OPINION

In this world of OPINIONS you have people who's views and beliefs are different then each others due to everyones grand uniqueness and special personality. You may not like apples and love oranges, but I love apples and dislike oranges. Doesn't mean we still cant be friends!


+100
#17
maybe I shoudl edit that I have been trying to listen to them for about four months or so...a band I would like would grow on me way before then.
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#19
also, I thank you guys/gals/whatever for not flaming the hell outta me. Good to know this isn't like the pit.
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#20
Quote by Slaytanic1993
also, I thank you guys/gals/whatever for not flaming the hell outta me. Good to know this isn't like the pit.


I like to flame with style.
A heathen, conceivably
but not,

I hope,
I’m not ashamed to be white
Vi doede ikke... vi har aldri levd
Barbarism is the natural state of mankind
Civilization is unnatural

It is a whim of circumstance
an unenlightened one
#22
No, I want to buy a 7-string, but I think 8-strings are bit too much but that's beyond the point here.
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#23
Meshuggah is about the rhythm, not the melody, so alot of the riffs will sound the same. Just try to not focus on the actualy notes (note) being played, but instead the progression of the rhythm and stuff...

That doesnt make much sense, but yea...

In saying that, listen to the solo in "Straws Pulled at Random", sooooo amazing.
#26
I really enjoy Meshuggah, I have never had to justify liking them, I just dig their sound. If you don't like Meshuggah, good on you.

Just be sure to never let Intellectual ideals overtake your ears. That is a problem that many people develop when they inhabit internet message boards frequently.
Don't be derivative. Explore...
#27
Quote by mattallica
Meshuggah is about the rhythm, not the melody, so alot of the riffs will sound the same. Just try to not focus on the actualy notes (note) being played, but instead the progression of the rhythm and stuff...

That doesnt make much sense, but yea...

In saying that, listen to the solo in "Straws Pulled at Random", sooooo amazing.


Yeah, and I'm a melody guy, that's probably it. I prefer music to have extremely melodic stuff, well usually. And, Meshuggah I guess just doesn't close it. And to INDUSTRIALMETAL, is the last part an attempt at saying because Meshuggah are one of many, many, many bands that use awkward signatures that I cannot handle "the intellectual ideals?"
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#28
Try and really listen to what is going on in the tracks.

Yes, most of their riffs are really similar and aren't too technical by themselves; it's the TIMING that makes it so complex. Some really crazy stuff going on, it's like the songs are evolving on their own, following some bizarre pattern you can't fully understand. (With 'you' I mean any and all listeners, not you specifically)

But hey, Meshuggah is not for everyone, no one band or musical act is for everyone. If you don't like them, then you don't like them, no need for excuses.
According to BS statistics, 92% of teens have moved on to rap. If you're among the 8% who doesn't consider rap to be real music, donate your brains, as you clearly aren't using them.
#29
Quote by raise_the_dead
Try and really listen to what is going on in the tracks.

Yes, most of their riffs are really similar and aren't too technical by themselves; it's the TIMING that makes it so complex. Some really crazy stuff going on, it's like the songs are evolving on their own, following some bizarre pattern you can't fully understand. (With 'you' I mean any and all listeners, not you specifically)

But hey, Meshuggah is not for everyone, no one band or musical act is for everyone. If you don't like them, then you don't like them, no need for excuses.


I also find meshuggah boring, no matter what time signatures they use, they suck in riff making and songwriting.
#30
Quote by Netherian
I also find meshuggah boring, no matter what time signatures they use, they suck in riff making and songwriting.


hey, whoa, whoa. Now you're gonna give me a bad name for posting that. I think they are great songwriters...I just can't get into. And yes, having one guitar in 28/8, one guitar in 16/4 and a drummer in 6/4 is pretty fuking complex
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#31
Meshuggah grow on you.

I was listening to them on or off for a whole year before something sorta clicked and they became one of my favourite bands.
#33
If you don't like that kind of riffs, you're not going to hear a difference between the different songs. If you like them, then you'll head the difference. It works better as a sort of ambient music, I suppose. It's not something you sit down, close your eyes and listen to for an hour straight.

Check out 'Beneath' if you want something a bit more catchy, though...
I'm a communist. Really.
#34
Yeah, I guess...unlike Opeth, I can sit down and listen to the entire discography over and over again and not get bored as none of their songs (except one or two on Damnation) are similar
R.I.P. Charles Michael "Evil Chuck" Schuldiner
B. May 13 1967 - D. December 13 2001

Quote by eggsandham2
cuz ppl hate how power metal they are cuz they think its "gay" or w.e, which is immature and dirogitory
#35
Eh... As much as I like them, I admit, they are REALLY hard to get into.

And best taken in small doses.
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#36
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Eh... As much as I like them, I admit, they are REALLY hard to get into.

And best taken in small doses.

Small doses indeed. I only listen to them when I need to blow my brains out, metaphorically speaking. absolutely brutal, but there's a point where low tuning is too low and i do like a melody to songs... so i've never really gotten into them. gotta admire their rhythmic skills though.
#37
Quote by VampireGoldfish
What you have stumbled on is called an OPINION

In this world of OPINIONS you have people who's views and beliefs are different then each others due to everyones grand uniqueness and special personality. You may not like apples and love oranges, but I love apples and dislike oranges. Doesn't mean we still cant be friends!




Also, fuck off.


LOL that is great...

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#38
If I listen to too much Meshuggah, I start feeling like I'm trapped in a rusty metal cage.

And that's a good thing.