Poll: What speaker should I put in my AC30CC1?
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View poll results: What speaker should I put in my AC30CC1?
Direct replacement of the Vox Neodog
2 6%
Eminence Red Fang
12 35%
Weber Blue Dog
12 35%
I have a better idea forming in my head
8 24%
Voters: 34.
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#1
So I found out what's wrong with my AC30: The speaker's blown.

I figured I'd drop in and get a consensus on what speaker y'all think I oughta replace it with. I could go with a direct replacement of the Vox Neodog, but I'm leaning more towards the Eminence Red Fang or possibly the Weber AlNiCo Blue Dog. They're all around the same price (which is when I dropped Tone Tubby from the selection process), so that's not a concern. I'm looking for the best AC30 sound, which is why I'm looking at 30W Celestion Blue clones.

If you have any other ideas, I'm open to them!
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#2
i would vote weber Blue Dog, because ted is awesome...

but there is an option called warehouse speakers. they make 15w alnico blue clones for $160 i think. i have their british lead. it's pretty decent.
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#4
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but there is an option called warehouse speakers. they make 15w alnico blue clones for $160 i think. i have their british lead. it's pretty decent.


Yeah, but because I have the CC1, I need a 30W speaker.
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#5
^just notices. just kidding.

but i like weber.
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#6
I voted Eminence Red Fang, since well, I have one. Great speaker, 30W power rating and highly recommended.

Listen to the video review, it shows some if it's nice tone.
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#8
^ It's expensive, and at 50W, rated higher than I'm looking for. I really wanna get the speaker moving.
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#9
What about volume? Deciding how efficient you want it will narrow your choices down.
#10
All the speakers I'm looking at are pretty efficient. Volume isn't a great concern, but I guess it's in the back of my mind. I always have my Tone Tubby cab if I need more.
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#11
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^ It's expensive, and at 50W, rated higher than I'm looking for. I really wanna get the speaker moving.

what about a Greenback ?
at 25 watts, i'm sure you'll get the speaker moving .
why do you want that though ? i always get this farting sound with my speaker at higher volumes...
#12
Well, the classic AC30 sound is that of a pair of Alnico Blues being pushed to their limit. I like that sound.
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#13
Well I still say Red Fang, great speaker, great for the price!
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#14
Yeah I'd definitely go with the Red Fang.
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#15
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Well, the classic AC30 sound is that of a pair of Alnico Blues being pushed to their limit. I like that sound.

why not get the Alnico blue then ?
#16
^ 'Cause it would sound really great right up until the moment I blew it!

I decided to go with the Red Fang.
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#17
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^ 'Cause it would sound really great right up until the moment I blew it!

I decided to go with the Red Fang.

ohh sorry i thought it was more than 15 watts. couldn't you make a 212 out of your vox, considering that that the CC1 and 2 are almost the same size ? so you could use 2 alnico blues with your ac30 ?

what i don't get is why you risk the chance of not liking the Eminence while you could get a 30 watt Alnico Blue clone that you like the sound of ?
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#19
No, it's actually considerably smaller than the 2x12.
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#21
ah man... well either way we need some clips you know.
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#22
I think it's worth it to buy a Celestion Blue. You won't miss the extra money months/years from now.
#24
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ohh sorry i thought it was more than 15 watts. couldn't you make a 212 out of your vox, considering that that the CC1 and 2 are almost the same size ? so you could use 2 alnico blues with your ac30 ?

what i don't get is why you risk the chance of not liking the Eminence while you could get a 30 watt Alnico Blue clone that you like the sound of ?
The Red Fang is a 30w Alnico Blue clone...
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#25
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I think it's worth it to buy a Celestion Blue. You won't miss the extra money months/years from now.


I don't. I don't thunk it's worth buying a speaker that blows (not as in sucks, but as in gets destroyed).

His is a 1x12 combo you see.
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#26
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I don't. I don't thunk it's worth buying a speaker that blows (not as in sucks, but as in gets destroyed).

His is a 1x12 combo you see.


Hence my Alnico Gold suggestion.
#27
Though Alnico Gold is like twice the price of the Red Fang.

I would go with the Red Fang, GREAT SPEAKER! Eminence FTW!
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#28
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Hence my Alnico Gold suggestion.

which is 50 watts so slats won't get the speaker moving like he wants to.

the weber or eminence (i didn't know it was a alnico blue clone too ) seems the obvious answer here i guess.
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#29
In the end, there was a lot more info and positive reviews for the Red Fang than the Weber. The one thing I really liked about Weber was the ability to get "light dope," but I decided the heavily doped Red Fang would be ok. It's hard to find someone who's had a bad experience with this speaker. This Guitar Mag Article also helped sell me on the Eminence.

The Celestion Gold was out for both the cost, and the higher wattage rating. I'd've gotten a Tone Tubby rather than the Gold for the same price.
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#30
So you got the Red Fang?

Awesome! I hope you like it as much as I love mine. It's a fantastic speaker IMO. Hope my info on it helped
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#31
^ It definitely did.

You turned me on to the speaker when you first got it in your Rocker, and I've had an interest in it since. I had been thinking of swapping to it before the stock speaker blew. The Weber looks great, too, but it just couldn't pass the Red Fang in my mind.
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#32
Yeah. It must sound great in the Vox. Have listen to my Rocker 30 review. Even though it's not a Vox, at about 1:54 and 2:53, you can hear that kind of Vox-y chime that the Alnico speaker has.
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#34
The dope is supposed to eliminate cone cry on high notes. I don't spend enough time sustaining bends beyond the 12th fret on the first string for it to matter a lot to me. I think it has the potential to restrict the speaker in the range where I do most of my playing. But like I said, I didn't let that stop me from going with the Red Fang.
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#36
From Ted himself:

Doping is the shiny goop you see on the surround of a speaker. Besides extending the life of the surround, it also acts as a shock absorber to help keep the cone under control at higher volumes. The downside is that it also dampens cone vibrations and therefore reduces the potential character and texture of the speaker. If you are going to bend/sustain notes in the area above the 10th fret on the high E string and at high volumes with heavy distortion, then you need the doping to help prevent ghost notes and cone cry that could result from the extreme cone vibrations. Othewise, I would get the speaker undoped. Many players prefer the raw, undamped tone of the undoped speaker and they learn to modulate their finger pressure when noting in the area that causes cone cry. Pre-Rola Treatment For this doping, the cone is artificially aged and chemically treated. Vibration dampner compound is also applied to the cone body and surround.


I like the sound of my speakers really freaking out. I'd go with light dope from Weber because hedging bets is my general nature.
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#37
i have light dope on my amp's speaker.
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#39
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His is a 1x12 combo you see.


ah yes, you're right. I forgot that little tidbit of information. In that case I'd go with one of those Weber Blues. I was thinking he has an AC15. That's what I think of when I think of a 1x12
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