#1
Hey UG dudes ! I'm planning on buying a new amp this year. Should i get the vox ad30vt or the blackheart ? I play mainly metal and i'm using a dean ML79 . Or d'you think i should save up longer for a line 6 spidervalve ?
#2
cube 30 FTW especially for metal.

also just FYI if your going to get a tube amp and spend a grand on it, dont get a spider, get a used Peavey 5150 combo. That will take you so much farther in life. Kinda like:

spider = winning 20,000 on the lottery....its fun for a while but then it sux bc you cant save up.
5150 = winning the powerball (60 mil+), investing in an education and be set for the rest of your life and your grandkids' life too.

lets face it which is betteR?
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Hey UG dudes ! I'm planning on buying a new amp this year. Should i get the vox ad30vt or the blackheart ? I play mainly metal and i'm using a dean ML79 . Or d'you think i should save up longer for a line 6 spidervalve ?

Metal..? Then I'd opt for the Blackheart Handsome Devil Halfstack... the speaker voicing is more the british way (closed enclosure, unlike the open combo that has a different speaker with a more "american" voicing) and you can add a second speaker later for more thrust. 15 tubewatts should be more than enough.
If you want it really impressive BIG, the Hothead and one or two 4x12" might be a good choice...

I tried the spidervalve, not a BAD amp, but still, like some said: A Jack of all trades... tries to be anything, not SOMETHING. Personally, I'm through with the simulations.

A nice plus: The modkits for the new Blackhearts that will be available soon...
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#4
Who cares about being educated when you have 60 mil?








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#5
If you can play loud regularly, the Blackheart.
If you can't, Vox.
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welllll...... my buget is around 700 US

That'd be a Handsome Devil Fullstack, then. I'll probably go that route, too - although I'll mod the second cabinet with a bass speaker and port (subwoofer) for those downtuned bad sounds.
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#10
Quote by 1337void
you man if you play metal save up a bit and try to get a mark iv man its the best seriously. a thousanbd bucks maybe more but u wont ever need another am save up mant is worth it cgrat cleanst too


What?

Why would you get a Tube Stack, He didnt say if he was gigging at all, It sounds to me if he is looking at small amps he wants something for practice.

I wouldnt get the Black Heart if I was going for a Metal tone, I would try the Peavey ValveKing 112 combo or VK Royal 8 if you want smaller and less volume (though I dont like their tone as much as the 112), It could do the 80's Hair Metal on its own, but with a good distortion/ overdrive pedal it could do the Br00t4lz!
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What?

Why would you get a Tube Stack, He didnt say if he was gigging at all, It sounds to me if he is looking at small amps he wants something for practice.

I wouldnt get the Black Heart if I was going for a Metal tone, I would try the Peavey ValveKing 112 combo or VK Royal 8 if you want smaller and less volume (though I dont like their tone as much as the 112), It could do the 80's Hair Metal on its own, but with a good distortion/ overdrive pedal it could do the Br00t4lz!


i suggested it because its awesome and wont ever need to be replaced, unlike the peavey amps that still leave some to be desired and mark iv sounds great at low volumes too, not just gigging and wont need a pedal for any kind of stuff
#12
the ad30vt doesnt cost nearly 700. If you want, you can get that, and have some extra for pedals, etc. But since you play metal, i wouldnt, it doesnt have great dist
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#13
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cube 30 FTW especially for metal.

also just FYI if your going to get a tube amp and spend a grand on it, dont get a spider, get a used Peavey 5150 combo. That will take you so much farther in life. Kinda like:

spider = winning 20,000 on the lottery....its fun for a while but then it sux bc you cant save up.
5150 = winning the powerball (60 mil+), investing in an education and be set for the rest of your life and your grandkids' life too.

lets face it which is betteR?


sorry what the hell was that about?

blackheart is all tube, valvetronix has one teeny valve circuit it, therefore its nothing more than a (bad) marketing scam of sorts

blackheart dammit!
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#14
I was watching a Guitar World review of the Valvetronix, and it seems like it can get a great metal tone for the budget. Considering Blackhearts are low gain amps, that would be my choice.

Unless you're willing to get a distortion pedal as well...in that case the Blackheart.
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#15
If you want low-end punch for crunch and beautiful pinch harmonics you may want to get a tube combo. Even if you need a distortion pedal they make up for lack of gain with punch, harmonics and articulation/responsiveness.
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i suggested it because its awesome and wont ever need to be replaced, unlike the peavey amps that still leave some to be desired and mark iv sounds great at low volumes too, not just gigging and wont need a pedal for any kind of stuff


I was refering to the fact that your post was very hard to read. The grammar and spelling was terrible, not that mine was perfect, but your's was very hard to read.

I agree that the Mark IV is a very good amp, but to have a stack in your home taking up so much space when most likely he is only looking for a practice amp is just stupid.

Also look into a Peavey Classic 30, combined with a good OD pedal.