#1
(There is a similar topic down below but this is a different question and nothing came up on the search.)

You can see the question in the title. I have an amp that I bought for volume rather than effects and therefore I don't even have overdrive although the amp was cheap. I am now trying to see if it is worth spending another £30-£40 on an effects pedal to make up for this. Am I wasting my time and my money or are they valuable pieces of kit?
#2
"Necassery"? Definitely not. Not necessary, either. The majority of bass amps don't have an onboard distortion or overdrive effect. There are some sounds that you just can't get without effects though. For example, you can't get Jesse Keeler's sound without chorus and distortion or Justin Chancellor's sound without a whammy pedal, distortion and a whole host of other effects. If you don't want that sound, don't buy effects.
#3
do you play bass or guitar?

for bass, effects pedals and an overdrive channel probably aren't necessities.
for guitar, you're probably going to at least want a good overdrive pedal.
#5
Not necessary. But nice to have if you can afford it.
#6
You never NEED pedals. But certain tones and effects are un-acheivable without them. IE, tremelo, phase shifter, etc etc.
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You never NEED pedals. But certain tones and effects are un-acheivable without them. IE, tremelo, phase shifter, etc etc.


Well, tremelo was a bad example, as either rapid picking or turing the volume knob on your bass can replicate it

But they should only be used when they make a good riff better, not as a prob to writing lines.
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there are very few bass FX that are really worth going out and buying. if i had to suggest one that is very much worth it. and i know alot of people will back me up (i think..) i'd say a chorus pedal

the only other ones that are kinda ok if you really really want to use them would be; auto wah, distortion and wah
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Well, tremelo was a bad example, as either rapid picking or turing the volume knob on your bass can replicate it

But they should only be used when they make a good riff better, not as a prob to writing lines.

I suppose your right about the picking, but i doubt anyone could turn there volume fast enough to replicate a tremelo pedal.
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Well, tremelo was a bad example, as either rapid picking or turing the volume knob on your bass can replicate it

But they should only be used when they make a good riff better, not as a prob to writing lines.


If you have a pickup selector you can make tremelo, but anyway, I'm not sure I agree with that. What about Bootsy?
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there are very few bass FX that are really worth going out and buying. if i had to suggest one that is very much worth it. and i know alot of people will back me up (i think..) i'd say a chorus pedal

the only other ones that are kinda ok if you really really want to use them would be; auto wah, distortion and wah



I dont agree with that. There are plenty of effects! Just as many, if not more than guitar!

OD, Flange, Evelope Filters, Synths, Compression, EQ, Chorus and many many more!

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#12
I've built a few of my favorite self-made bass lines around a specific effect, I think you can start there if you want.

writing with effects can actually force you to write good parts. It's no different than a poet filling in a sonnet, or a lyricist writing for the 12 bar blues. When you have certain structural requirements to fill--and each type of effect poses its own--you will usually come out with something much better than if you had full freedom. I'm not poo-pooing creative freedom I'm just saying, why do you think beginning fiction and poetry classes demand students use established forms? You often get more creative meeting a standard.

Of course most of us will still insist that with most styles of music it is easy to overuse bass effects, but I don't think they should be attacked as being completely useless or even as being the finishing touches on something already made.
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If you have a pickup selector you can make tremelo, but anyway, I'm not sure I agree with that. What about Bootsy?



Bootsy is an incredible bassist without effects, such as in his early days with James Brown. He then started using effects in his P-funk days as a way to help express his creativity.

Doing that is fine once you can do it without effects. The trouble is that people can start to rely on effects, if they are not good, expresive players without them. They depend on the edge a wacky effect can give them in order to compose otherwise boring lines.
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Thanks for all the replies.

I think I have decided that I will buy a Multi-Effects Pedal because I want versatility in writing songs and I want to have some complicated bass riffs in my arsenal. I'm not going to spend too much on it but it may act as a useful tool if I want to get my playing heard at gigs.

Would it be illegal if a posted up my choice to allow you to advise?
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Thanks for all the replies.

I think I have decided that I will buy a Multi-Effects Pedal because I want versatility in writing songs and I want to have some complicated bass riffs in my arsenal. I'm not going to spend too much on it but it may act as a useful tool if I want to get my playing heard at gigs.

Would it be illegal if a posted up my choice to allow you to advise?



not illegal at all, post them up
#18
If you can't write good riffs with pedals then the ones you do write with pedals probably wont be great either. Instead of buying some pedal buy a theory book and learn some new scales and techniques.
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this kind of thread showed up in the guitar forum the other day and someone put it best when they said...

"i like to paint with different colors"
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this kind of thread showed up in the guitar forum the other day and someone put it best when they said...

"i like to paint with different colors"


Yes, but (although modern art may disagree) a lot of colours on the page doesn't mean you have formed any shapes.

Learn to draw, thenlearn to apply colour.
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