#1
Hello Amp users,

At the moment I play a Vox AD50VT, which I got when they first came out a few years back, but I've since grown out of it.

I very much like the 'nu metal' aka 'recto setting', which models the dual/triple rectifier, and would obviously like to pursue this kind of tone in the future.

Basically, I can't afford a real mesa boogie amplifier, nor do I have space for it, so I was wondering if anyone knows any cheaper alternatives.

Ideally, I'd like to spend less than £600 ($900), although I'm willing to go a little bit higher, and would prefer a smallish combo with a single speaker.

I really like the smooth treble and insane amount of presence of the vox model, but would like something a little brighter.

Any help would be appreciated
#2
Engl Screamer would have that kind of tonal characteristics, right?

Btw, should have mentioned this before, but I'm not looking for a high gain amp, medium gain will be sufficient
#3
how about the XL series of the Vox Valvetronix, im not sure what the difference is, but it is different to the normal Valvetronix amps
#5
Nope, no metal.

It's quite hard to explain what it is that I'll be playing, so I'll settle on "classic rock, old school punk, and my own stuff".

I play quite a lot of psychedelia, too, but I just use my standard tone.

I'd post a soundclip, but it'd be pointless because there'd be too much unfixable colouration

But if you've played the recto model, that's it.

Sorry I couldn't be much help, and I will be sure to check the Orange amongst others. I played a Vox AC30 of some sort or another before but didn't like it very much, although I am going on the premise that all Vox AC30's sound roughly the same.
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how about the XL series of the Vox Valvetronix, im not sure what the difference is, but it is different to the normal Valvetronix amps


I really want to go all-valve, the XLK series isn't that much difference, plus they got rid of the only high gain model I like on it.

If yo find one you like, go and try it out in a guitar shop. I think you'll like the Orange though.


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#7
Randall 150G3 head with valve dynamic. Yeah, I know it's a hybrid, but the thing is one of the best amps out there...good clean tones and almost mesa like distortion. I know B-52 makes an all-tube head for around $500 that's supposedly got some kind of rectifier setting, but from what I hear it makes almost no difference. Definitely the Randall though...those amps are crazy good.
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Check out the new Bugera amp line, their pretty cheap, all tube amps, but their almost exact copies of peavey amps, same components and everything. they have ones based on teh 6505, 6505+, XXX, and JSX, maybe you should check the xxx or jsx based ones, they're very versitile amps.
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As long as they sound NOTHING like Valvekings, I'm prepared to give them a go.

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#10
It's pretty strange to see dsubstanceuk banned, as illustrated in this thread, he was very helpful indeed.

I checked out the orange rocker and ac30, but they were a little too crunchy, whereas I like smooth.

I guess I'll keep looking, or else save up for a Mesa... eek!
#12
Hmm, I've had Laney Bass Amps before, which were quite good value, although I've not checked out their range of guitar amps.

It's another thing to try I suppose
#13
Krank Rev Jr maybe? £599 dont sound half bad for a 20w dual channel mini stack.

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#14
Basically, I can't afford a real mesa boogie amplifier, nor do I have space for it, so I was wondering if anyone knows any cheaper alternatives.

Ideally, I'd like to spend less than £600 ($900), although I'm willing to go a little bit higher, and would prefer a smallish combo with a single speaker.


Are you kidding? An F-series or DC combo would be ideal, have a look through the Guitarist calssifieds and so on. In fact, I'm selling my DC-5 for around £550...
#15
It's not single speaker, but a Carvin V3 combo would just about fit that budget, and I'm told they can reach a pretty mesa-ish tone.

Then again, not sure how available they are in UK.
#18
Ok, bit of advice, Sound Control is not as good as it's made out to be. THEY DON'T EVEN STOCK LANEY :O

but really, a Vox AC30 would be ideal for that tone, but seeing as you're not a fan, try the Laney VC30, quite similar, but not particularly high gain, you might want an overdrive with it.
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#19
Iv spent insane ammounts of time with my mates dads ac-30 and they sound absolutely nothing like a recto. Its by no means a modern amp, listen to the intro to everlong by foo fighters for its general vibe. Playing metal on a ac30 is just plain wrong...
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#20
I think I'll check out the F series.

Btw, I'm aware of how attrocious Sound Control really is, unfortunately it's the only place locally where I can try a small range of amps out.

Then there's the fact that they pay a load of retarded metallica fanboys on commission. Great idea.
#21
what type of tone do you want exactly? so far i've got that you want a recto tone, except not exactly, and you don't really play metal. that's quite confusing, to be honest. do you need the ability to get high gain ever? do you want a more american tone? etc.
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#22
you want recto tone, but you don't play metal? that's strange...

but...used Mark III's are kinda cheap, and they sound very close to the hugely expensive Mark IV's. look for one of those
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#23
If you want a Mesa then see if you can go used, or better yet, import an American used. I've seen American used F series amps go for about £300, plus maybe another £100 - 150 on shipping, they have fairly recto-esque distortion too and great cleans.
#24
if literaly want a poor man's mesa, B52 was actually started by a former mesa engineer.
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