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Is it really THAT bad? I have an agathis guitar, and it doesn't seem HORRIBLY bad... I'd like to see your guy's input on it
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But does it sound good?
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Well with my passive EMG's, I only think it sounds alright.
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hm, i have an agathis guitar as well, and it's very cheap and thus sound terrible. BUT i have played rather decent sounding agathis guitars as well (LTD series)
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emgs cover up the natural sound of the wood tho
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emgs cover up the natural sound of the wood tho

So if I get some EMG 81-85's it should be fine?
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Well, if I use the right effects and such, can it sound DECENT? Because I worry about my tone a lot... and I feel like this guitar would be a waste without a good tone ._.
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So if I get some EMG 81-85's it should be fine?


it wil sound bland like every other guitar with emgs but if you tweak your eq you might be able to get a usable tone out of it.what amp are you using?
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it wil sound bland like every other guitar with emgs but if you tweak your eq you might be able to get a usable tone out of it.what amp are you using?

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Vox AD50VT amp. I love metal. Metal is what this guitar will do. Maybe an x2n in the bridge, and somethign else in the neck? Everyone says the amp matters the most about the tone... so... yeah.


itl do for metal but the x2n is a VERY hot pup so you wanna make sure your playin is dead tight cos any mistakes will stick out.maybe try a D-activator for the neck
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Personally I think agathis sounds fine through a good amp, my GAX30 sound pretty damn good through my GH50L.
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itl do for metal but the x2n is a VERY hot pup so you wanna make sure your playin is dead tight cos any mistakes will stick out.maybe try a D-activator for the neck

alright. thanks for all the help guys.


so really, guitar wood doesn't matter THAT much if you have a good amp, and good effects and pickups?

I want an x2n in one of my guitars, however. Whichever it'll sound better in will do good (my jackson or esp). D Activator in the neck sounds good. However, I need a neck pickup in my Jackson then, too... since I don't want to use the stock pickup for a while
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wood does matter a lot but not as much if you use active pups or high output passive ones
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Its sound kind of sterial like mmahogany lite But what really kills agathis is the cheap electronics that come with it.
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#18
i have a tele with an agathis body and the only thing i can complain about is that it is heavy.
the sound is fine and i only have the stock pickups in and a crappy amp.
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My agathis body is LIGHT

maybe because I'm used to carrying a golf bag lol...

but yeah, an x2n is what I was looking at. So it'll sound a million times better with better pickups?
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Active pickups basically disregard the body of the guitar entirely. All pickups depend on having a good amp (the amp always makes up most of your tone anyway), but actives rely on a good amp even more. Really, you shouldn't bother touching active pickups at all unless you have a good, touring-quality amp to use. Bedroom practise amps aren't going to give the actives the support they need to produce a good tone.


As far as agathis goes, there are worse woods out there, but the main problem with agathis is that usually, it doesn't cost much more to get the same spec in basswood which is a better body wood, and it's rare for it to cost much more top get the same kind of guitar in mahogany or alder. In fact you can normally get a basswood/mahogany/alder guitar with cheaper pickups at the same price as an agathis guitar with regular pickups. And since you can always upgrade pickups later anyway, but you can't upgrade the wood your guitar is made from, it just makes more sense to leave agathis alone, buy something with mahogany, basswood or alder, and then upgrade whatever else.
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I don't like agathis wood because it feels cheap. It's the sort of sh1t that walmart guitars are made from. One step up from plywood

That's just one of the things I like about my Les Paul, it's mahogany and feels heavy and good quality
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Active pickups basically disregard the body of the guitar entirely. All pickups depend on having a good amp (the amp always makes up most of your tone anyway), but actives rely on a good amp even more. Really, you shouldn't bother touching active pickups at all unless you have a good, touring-quality amp to use. Bedroom practise amps aren't going to give the actives the support they need to produce a good tone.


As far as agathis goes, there are worse woods out there, but the main problem with agathis is that usually, it doesn't cost much more to get the same spec in basswood which is a better body wood, and it's rare for it to cost much more top get the same kind of guitar in mahogany or alder. In fact you can normally get a basswood/mahogany/alder guitar with cheaper pickups at the same price as an agathis guitar with regular pickups. And since you can always upgrade pickups later anyway, but you can't upgrade the wood your guitar is made from, it just makes more sense to leave agathis alone, buy something with mahogany, basswood or alder, and then upgrade whatever else.
So an x2n in the bridge will really help my tone?
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Agathis gets a lot of bad rep because it's found on budget and beginner guitars. The wood itself isn't terrible, it's just cheap and that's its downfall.

Alder, basswood, mahogany and such are all generally better though so it doesn't really matter.
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