#1
I just don't get how you do it. I want to learn songs such as Knights Of Cydonia and Run To The Hills but i need to know how to gallop. My bass teacher told me that Steve harris (maiden bassist) does a downstroke follwed by 2 upstrokes but i cant get round that.

if any of you know how to gallop can you please give me any advice, tips, help or suggestions how to do it?

thanks
#3
I don't know the Maiden song, but I know that the Muse bassist uses his fingers, so try using all upstrokes with your first two fingers, that'll make it easier.
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Well, your guitar teacher is wrong. A gallop is two short notes followed by a longer note, typically two 16ths followed by an 8th
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I don't know the Maiden song, but I know that the Muse bassist uses his fingers, so try using all upstrokes with your first two fingers, that'll make it easier.


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#6
If you are playing with fingers, use your ring finger. This pattern 321 321 321 makes galloping much easier with 10 minutes of getting used to it.

But doing the Steve Harris 2 finger gallop is much harder.
#7
Do you use fingers or a pick?

Galloping can be done with two fingers, or with three. For two fingers, you use the middle, and index fingers in a pattern of Middle-Index-Middle. For three, you use your ring, middle, and index fingers in that order. It takes some practice, but you'll eventually get to speed.

If you use a pick, though, down-up-down would be easiest (In my opinion).
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If you are playing with fingers, use your ring finger. This pattern 321 321 321 makes galloping much easier with 10 minutes of getting used to it.

But doing the Steve Harris 2 finger gallop is much harder.


i thought he used a pick o.0 you learn something new everyday
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#9
2 songs you can learn first would be heaven and hell by sabbath and dio's holy diver. they use alot of slower gallops on bass.

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For two fingers, you use the middle, and index fingers in a pattern of Middle-Index-Middle.

If you use a pick, though, down-up-down would be easiest (In my opinion).


That would mess up his technique making him losing speed for playing the middle finger twice.
It should be Middle-Index-Middle, Index-Middle-Index, Middle-Index-Middle and so on....

And personally I think galloping with fingers are easier but everybody prefers differently and for using a pick, you should keep alternating and not repeat a same pattern.
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And personally I think galloping with fingers are easier but everybody prefers differently and for using a pick, you should keep alternating and not repeat a same pattern.
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What is wrong with 3 finger gallops? They flow incredibly naturally, and therefore are very easy to play quickly. I hardly use them, but I can match the speed of every Iron Maiden gallop, and Harris is know for his gallops.

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That would mess up his technique making him losing speed for playing the middle finger twice.
It should be Middle-Index-Middle, Index-Middle-Index, Middle-Index-Middle and so on....

And personally I think galloping with fingers are easier but everybody prefers differently and for using a pick, you should keep alternating and not repeat a same pattern.
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Yeah, sorry 'bout that, that was what I meant to say.
And yeah, personally, I prefer the two finger gallop. I was just saying that a pick would probably be the easiest.
#14
You can always use both, using the three finger ring-middle-index gallop for fast stuff, and a two finger gallop for stuff that isn't all that fast.
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i can't really use my ring finger, its double jointed, which i think probably affects how i can move it... basically it always wants to play with the middle finger and not separately, so i guess the 2 finger technique is better for me

people have their prefereneces though
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#16
I don't see the big deal with 3 fingers, I manage to play faster than Iron Maiden's live stuff with only two fingers...

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#18
Just about every Dio song is gallops.
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#19
I would suggest using the three fingers. Ring - middle- index. It gives you more time to pluck if you use three fingers.

With the pick use alternate picking switching strokes each gallup
#20
Run to the hills is actually the first song I learned all the way through on the bass (former guitar player). I never used a pick and Steve Harris doesn't use a pick. Run To The Hills would IMHO be a very difficult song to play using a pick. I don't use my third finger and it's not a big deal, unless your playing very fast songs. Also that age old practice, practice, practice thing is the same for this, the more you use your fingers while playing the bass the more it will feel natural to do so. It actually feels odd to me to use a pick. Just my .02


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#21
I do gallops with one finger, just strumming it back and forth.

Then again, they're not very fast and pretty sloppy, so what do I know.
#22
remember that correct strumming technique with a pick involves you to keep doing up and downstrokes at a constant speed and to just miss the string on held notes or rests when possible. by held notes i mean ones that would be 2 strokes otherwise. you don't just keep flailing your arm for a measure without hitting notes. buy anyway, that would conclude that since a gallop contains 4 eigth note sections you should strum it down up down up. thus you would hit the string down up down, down up down, down up down. this is proper picking and it tends to hold a consistent beat better than down up down, up down up. but really if you feel that alternating the patterns for you is easier then go for it.
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I don't see the big deal with 3 fingers, I manage to play faster than Iron Maiden's live stuff with only two fingers...

*shrugs*



It is just that 3 fingers flows much easier, making high speeds far easier, and clearer. It takes a lot of practise to stop fast 2 finger gallops sounding a bit choppy and forced.
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What is wrong with 3 finger gallops? They flow incredibly naturally, and therefore are very easy to play quickly. I hardly use them, but I can match the speed of every Iron Maiden gallop, and Harris is know for his gallops.

Don't make life difficult, and do what you find easiest.

I never said Im against 3 finger gallops, I use them.
I was talking about dave's post, he didnt write what he meant correctly.
#25
I use 2 aswell. I just find it easier.

I swear in the music video for Knights of Cydonia, Chris Wolstenholme uses a pick. But anyways, fingers is easier for gallops. Just build speed up slowly.

Good early songs have already been pointed out (holy diver being the best one) but once you get a little advanced try the trooper by maiden, pretty much solid gallops for 4 mins.
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I do gallops with one finger, just strumming it back and forth.

Then again, they're not very fast and pretty sloppy, so what do I know.




Anyhow, I'd say it is Steve Harris' stamina that he is more well known for - which incorporates the gallops. Maybe it is just me, but my arm hurts after run to the hills. He just keeps going!
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#27
I just use 3 fingers and just slide them accros the string it gets really easy after awhile and it really fun.
#28
Sticking with the galloping question, I can gallop rather easily on the low E, but I phail miserably galloping on any other strings...is it just lack of practice, or what?
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#29
steve harris does it with three fingers
i just practiced and practiced till i got the hang of using three fingers
#30
galloping is quite easy to do with a metronome. just set it to an easy pace that you know you can play at least 16ths to.

Then start adding another 8th in before you strike the 16ths.

Eventually you will become faster and faster.
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steve harris does it with three fingers



*Sighs*

No, he only plays with two fingers. His ring finger moving around is simply due to the fact it is attached to the middle finger by tendons. He has cleared it up in numerous interviews, and if you watch him play properly, it is clearly 2 fingers.

However, his lines are very well suited to 3 finger technique.
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*Sighs*

No, he only plays with two fingers. His ring finger moving around is simply due to the fact it is attached to the middle finger by tendons. He has cleared it up in numerous interviews, and if you watch him play properly, it is clearly 2 fingers.

However, his lines are very well suited to 3 finger technique.

oh? i could of swore he said he used three fingers somewhere
unless im getting confused with another person
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oh? i could of swore he said he used three fingers somewhere
unless im getting confused with another person


Steve DiGiorgio perhaps?
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