#1
Long story short, I've been asked to join a university mate's band as a live player and maybe a full member - Even though I'm hardly heavily into black metal myself, but got introduced to it through him & I enjoy the sound & should be able to pull it off. I've got the perfect guitar already, but needs a new bridge (looking to get a black Strat style trem for that to cover the hole where a lame Floyd used to live), but I havebn;t the foggiest on pickups. Thinking for an amp if I get a good marshall valve & a very hi-end distortion pedal I'll be fine, but haven't the foggiest where to go in this very murky realm (no pun intended)
Any words and/or hinters will be greatly appreciated/rewarded with e-cookies (if you really want )
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#2
I replaced one of the pickups in one of my guitars with an EMG-81 active pickup. It has a great crunch and is perfect for metal or lead guitar playing, however, it isn't a great pickup for clean sound. As far as metal goes, it is great for that. It does require a 9-volt battery so you have to make sure that you have somewhere inside the guitar to put that.

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#4
no offence if you have a good valve amp. But is the MG in your sig your "valve" amp?

EDIT. I'm sorry I misread that
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no offence if you have a good valve amp. But is the MG in your sig your "valve" amp?

EDIT. I'm sorry I misread that

you've got to be kidding me. No no - when I get my next loan I'm gonna go hunting for a proper vale amp. the MG maybe be loud enough for gigs, but if I do finish up with installing active EMG's, than a solid state amp won't get me my full moneys' worth.
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Last edited by Korzack at Feb 23, 2008,
#7
y would u wanna change a FR to a strat style trem?...sereously why the hell would u wanna do that? especially for metal
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#8
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Thinking for an amp if I get a good marshall valve & a very hi-end distortion pedal I'll be fine

Why Marshall?
You COULD do it with a Marshall, but it could be far easier with another amp.
How much do you have to spend? And are you willing to go used?
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#9
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y would u wanna change a FR to a strat style trem?...sereously why the hell would u wanna do that? especially for metal

Just posted first replies before you came on - Because they're just too much hassle, in my opinion. I still want a tremolo system on the guitar, but I just didn't enjoy any of the time I spent trying to convince my floyd to stay right and failing.
And budget... Seriously, how much are pickups really going to cost? I can guess with GAk that a set of EMG's would be no more than £150-200, and for the amp I'm working at £4-600, but for the amp I could really use a bit more versatility than 'very loud metal noise' Sorry, should've been mroe concise in my first post, but thanks for reminding me
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Backup: Vintage AV1
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#10
hhm...How versatile do you need this said amp to be?
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#11
if u want a good pedal, boss does a great job as far as distortion. check this one out
i know it says metal core, but trust me, ive used it, its for black and death metal

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-ML2-Metal-Core-Distortion-Pedal?sku=150216

as far as pick-ups. use EMGz. they are great pick-ups for metal. active is probably the way to go, but u can try passive ones. i have a bass with passive EMGs and i think they wrk fine

i know a lot of black metal bands use ESP guitars. ive played a lot of them. they make signiture models for bands like behemoth and devil driver. i luv ESP guitars. u should check them out too.

anything else u need as far as gear i can help u out with

good luck
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#12
Well I'm starting a Rock band of my own - sorta hard rock/Punkish thing - think a GnR meets Motorhead feel. If something like that won't be possible, could you recommend any stomp-bocxes that'll help me? I know about the digitech death metal pedal, but I'm a complete novice when it comes to really heavy gear.
The rig:
Gibson SG faded special -> Marshall MG 50/100 (working on a valve amp)
Backup: Vintage AV1
Newcastle United
#13
For a black metal amp get a used Peavey 5150 combo, for pups get some EMGs, and skip the pedal.
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#14
Okay, cool - I like the idea of the 5150 as that'd work with the other band as well. And as for EMG's - any particular combos? After a brief thumb-through thinking the 81/85 combo would be ideal. Had a look at the 89 but don't really think I'll need coil tap, no matter how hi-power it'll be to have the single coil on tap if need be.
The rig:
Gibson SG faded special -> Marshall MG 50/100 (working on a valve amp)
Backup: Vintage AV1
Newcastle United
#15
[quote="hiimwilson2010]if u want a good pedal, boss does a great job as far as distortion. check this one out
i know it says metal core, but trust me, ive used it, its for black and death metal
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-ML2-Metal-Core-Distortion-Pedal?sku=150216

as far as pick-ups. use EMGz. they are great pick-ups for metal. active is probably the way to go, but u can try passive ones. i have a bass with passive EMGs and i think they wrk fine

i know a lot of black metal bands use ESP guitars. ive played a lot of them. they make signiture models for bands like behemoth and devil driver. i luv ESP guitars. u should check them out too.

anything else u need as far as gear i can help u out with

good luck


Whole post = fail execpt the EMG's, but pu's dont need to be active to be good, the SD Dist. is pretty good, and i really like the Screamin' Demon, JB is quite nice thats just Duncans..

I'd second the 5150. (Combo) Great amp for Metal, if you think about going 1/4 or 1/2 stack wise then i'd suggest a 5150II or 6505+, i seem to like them better then the orig's since ive had both. But thats me, go try both.
#16
I think a combo will do, although can anyone recommend anything that'll be as helpful in the event I won't be able to find one? Stoke-on-Trent is hardly the la grange, as I'm sure you're aware
The rig:
Gibson SG faded special -> Marshall MG 50/100 (working on a valve amp)
Backup: Vintage AV1
Newcastle United
#17
You can get a Laney GH50L head and a 2x12" cab for under £600. Its amazing for cleans, blues, rock, shred, metal and very heavy metal. Single channel though so switching from distortion to a clean sound would mean rolling off the guitar volume.

Get the head off GAK or anywhere else that has it at £400 or less and get the 2x12" Framus cab for £200 off www.thomann.de which is a bargain.
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#18
If you're going the EMG route, do the 18v mod while your at it. It'll help for that extreme distortion.
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#19
I would just reccomend a new amp b4 you go off n get new pickups... If you like how your amp sounds than you might not need them. get the 5150... and if you still want to mess with pups, get a swineshead X-Bucker or Bare Knuckle Warpigs
#20
Cool - thanks everyone. I'll have a look around for a 5150 and the GH50L tomorrow. Just a quick question more about trems - does anyone have any feedback about the Kahlers? If those are easier to maintain and use than a floyd, then it's worth serious consideration for this mod-fest (for the record, the guitar I'll be using is an Epiphone G-400 Xtreme. I'll admit it hardly looks ruthless, but its' a ridiculous body shape enough for it, & i need to find a use for this damn axe:p
The rig:
Gibson SG faded special -> Marshall MG 50/100 (working on a valve amp)
Backup: Vintage AV1
Newcastle United