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#1
Okay so I want my band to start tuning in Eb, because I like the edge you get from it, it would help our sound out, give all the songs a nice tone. But my other guitarist doesn't want to, I don't know why, but I've been trying to convince him. He thinks it would be too much of a hassle to tune back when we cover something in standard but I told him we'd just capo the 1st, he still doesn't crack. I've tried everything. Give me some other reasons to tune to Eb. Thanks.

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#2
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#3
He probably just doesn't know how. Oh and you're not the only Peruvian, I am.
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a) Why does it really make much of a difference? All you're doing is lowering the tone ever so slightly, I don't see how it will give you any kind of a noticeable "edge".

b) Fuck the capo. If you want to cover something that's normally in standard then just cover it in Eb. Give that song your "edge" as well.
#6
You don't even have to tune to standard to cover something in standard ... it will sound fine a half-step down.

I tuned my guitar a half step down because the guy I jam with has his guitar a half step down all the time, and I'm thinking of leaving it there myself.
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You don't. Simple as that.
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It's only half a step, what kind of difference would it make?

And y'all are really set on using that tuning, tell him to suck it up.
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#9
WHy do you want it flat. people wont notice, unless they have perfect pitch
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#10
tell him to tune to Eb then bend

its a fair bit easier
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#11
Don't. It won't help at all. It'll take some tone off your guitar.
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#12
Tune down his guitar when he is not around, then tell him that you no longer want to tune in Eb. If he hasn't got "perfect pitch" or doesn't use digital tuners, he won't notice.
#13
Yeah, it makes no difference save the fact you can bend notes easier and have a lower range by a semitone; a big difference

If you want to convince them, feed some bullsh*t like it fits the vocals better.
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#14
dude, i think eb tuning is nice. it DOES make a difference. Try playing a guns n roses song in standard? are you guys tone deaf?
#15
Haha. I'll just show up to our next show with our bassist and I tuned to Eb, and he'll have to suck it up and tune to it. Sweet. Thanks pit.

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#16
start covering guns n roses and slayer, he will have to tune down. or just play something in standard and then the same thing in Eb and show him it sounds better, or just tell him to get a beater guitar for your standard songs. i keep aguitar in Eb just cause it sounds so cool.

EDIT: tell him I play in Eb a lot! all must bow to my will! why didnt i think of this before?

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Okay so I want my band to start tuning in Eb, because I like the edge you get from it, it would help our sound out, give all the songs a nice tone. But my other guitarist doesn't want to, I don't know why, but I've been trying to convince him. He thinks it would be too much of a hassle to tune back when we cover something in standard but I told him we'd just capo the 1st, he still doesn't crack. I've tried everything. Give me some other reasons to tune to Eb. Thanks.

This is exactly what my friend has been trying to get me to do ...in fact i thought u were him lol
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#19
I personally keep one guitar in Eb and one in standard.

The only advantage I can see is that it makes high bends slightly easier, especially if you're using heavy strings.

but alot of bands who tune in standard in the studio tune in Eb live, makes it a little easier on the singer.
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Here's an idea, get multiple guitars and have one tuned to standard, the other Eb. Whoa.
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but alot of bands who tune in standard in the studio tune in Eb live, makes it a little easier on the singer.


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I love Eb. It helps your solos, makes the bends easier and I think the guitar feels better to play overall with it.

Just tell him it fits your vocalist much better.
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#27
change his tunings when hes not looking if he s got a locking nut cut the strings at the trees then he will have no choice
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#28
either give up... or spend a **** load of money on a whammy pedal. plug that into his rig, I'm pretty sure it has a detune half step, 1 step, and 2 steps feature.
#29
dont make him he propable likes standard tuning. or if you still want it use 2 gutiars 1 in standard 1 in Eb
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I love Eb. It helps your solos, makes the bends easier and I think the guitar feels better to play overall with it.

Just tell him it fits your vocalist much better.


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#31
the only real reason i feel for bein in Eb is for the singer, it does'n give a big "edge" to a song
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#32
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Do you really want to become the next Metallica?

I don't think being metal's most succesful band ever is that bad. And Metallica isn't the only band who has used the Eb tuning.


Or you could play in Eb and he could play in E. It would sound splendid!
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#33
The only reason you tune down is if your singer can't sing high enough or if your guitar has higher gaged strings on it. If you are rocking lights and you tune down to Eb it doesn't do crap. If any thing, it will make it sound worse. I think you are making assumptions of sound differences because SRV always tuned down, but he did because of those thick strings he used. They caused too much tension for his guitar. Tell ur other guitarist to slap you across the face
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The only reason you tune down is if your singer can't sing high enough or if your guitar has higher gaged strings on it. If you are rocking lights and you tune down to Eb it doesn't do crap. If any thing, it will make it sound worse. I think you are making assumptions of sound differences because SRV always tuned down, but he did because of those thick strings he used. They caused too much tension for his guitar. Tell ur other guitarist to slap you across the face

Yes, Tony Kakko can't really sing that high. And James LaBrie, and Russell Allen and so on...
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The only reason you tune down is if your singer can't sing high enough or if your guitar has higher gaged strings on it. If you are rocking lights and you tune down to Eb it doesn't do crap. If any thing, it will make it sound worse. I think you are making assumptions of sound differences because SRV always tuned down, but he did because of those thick strings he used. They caused too much tension for his guitar. Tell ur other guitarist to slap you across the face


Dude. I AM the singer. And yes we cover songs that are almost out of my range, and difficult to sing live, that's why I want to do it.

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Dude. I AM the singer. And yes we cover songs that are almost out of my range, and difficult to sing live, that's why I want to do it.

Well, tell him that!
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Okay so I want my band to start tuning in Eb, because I like the edge you get from it, it would help our sound out, give all the songs a nice tone. But my other guitarist doesn't want to, I don't know why, but I've been trying to convince him. He thinks it would be too much of a hassle to tune back when we cover something in standard but I told him we'd just capo the 1st, he still doesn't crack. I've tried everything. Give me some other reasons to tune to Eb. Thanks.



Maybe he doesn't know why you won't just stay in standard.
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#39
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Hate to be a pedant but slayer did it first.

Still applies though. Whys when you can write in standard.
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dont make him he propable likes standard tuning. or if you still want it use 2 gutiars 1 in standard 1 in Eb
That won't sound too good.

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