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After hearing the Windsor in action, I know it's the amp for me.


However, I don't know if it's the amp for my house

I live in a 3 bedroom trailer with a room built on. It's by no means a mansion.

I also live with my grandpa, who doesn't mind my little Champ rippin' up the house....

....but I don't know what he would say if I cranked up a stack.

I would get the combo, but I'm in a band and we're starting to get some shows lined up. I don't think 20W could hold down some of the shows we'll be playing.

Damn I wish they made a 40 or 50W one.

Isn't there something you can get for a tube amp to lower the wattage when you need to? I can't remember the name of it, but they have been mentioned around here before.

What are they called, and what would be a good one for me?
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#3
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Attenuator is what you need


ATTENUATOR!

I had it on the tip of my tongue, but I just couldn't think of it!

If they're anything like every other piece of equipment for guitar, there's good ones and bad ones....am I right?

Recommend me a good one please!
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#4
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Attenuator is what you need

Yep, they're a bit pricey though. Also from what I've heard about the Windsor studio its not worth it at this point. A lot of glitches that need to be worked out.
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#7
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use the windsor for gigs and your champ for home practice



I could do this...


but I was planning on retiring the Champ to a life in the closet with a cover on it once I got a new amp.

It's an old amp, and I've given it too much abuse already. (hooking it up to high gain pedals, leaving it at friend's houses who know nothing about amps and want to plug microphones into it, etc) If it ever died on me, I'd probably cry like a little girl.

Plus, God knows what it could be worth in about 30 more years.
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I could do this...


but I was planning on retiring the Champ to a life in the closet with a cover on it once I got a new amp.

It's an old amp, and I've given it too much abuse already. (hooking it up to high gain pedals, leaving it at friend's houses who know nothing about amps and want to plug microphones into it, etc) If it ever died on me, I'd probably cry like a little girl.

Plus, God knows what it could be worth in about 30 more years.


Not sure if it'd be worth a whole lot. It'll be worth maybe a bit more than it is today, but it won't become super valuable.
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#9
At most, the Champion would probably do with a tube change...

The Windsor is definitely loud.

The trailer may not survive.
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The trailer may not survive.



That's what I was fearing.....

I'm thinking attenuator.

Which attenuator would be best?

I was looking at the THD one, but it's really pricey.

The one linked to me earlier in the thread is nice looking.

Could an attenuator damage my amp in any way?
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#11
Quote by dudetheman
That's what I was fearing.....

I'm thinking attenuator.

Which attenuator would be best?

I was looking at the THD one, but it's really pricey.

The one linked to me earlier in the thread is nice looking.

Could an attenuator damage my amp in any way?

Yes, it will launch a nuclear missle.

No sir, no worries, its safe.

But your trailer may be in rough shape after...
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#12
the weber suggested to you earlier will be good. It won't damage your amp, the tone doesn't sound the same as if it were cranked, but it is close in my experience.
#13
The weber is one of the best attenuators on the market, and also one of the more affordable ones.
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#14
Also, the Windsor sounds pretty good at low volumes, good enough for practising at least.
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#15
^Plus if you're doing metal type stuff that's almost all preamp gain so you wouldn't need to turn it up and push the power tubes anyway. I say get the windsor and see if you like it's sound at lower volumes. If you don't then then get the MASS. I have one and I must say it totally blew me away. You lose a little bit of treble though since the amp isn't as loud. You also don't get any speaker break up, but all in all they work amazing and save your hearing.

I have clips on my profile if you want to hear. My amp is cranked to the point of waking the neighbors. The attenuator has it quiet enough so it won't wake someone in the next room.
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#16
Also, you don't need the tone to be THE BEST when your practising at home, so the Windsor might not sound THE BEST at home, but it will sound good enough.
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#17
Wait!

Riffhog has played/heard the combo. According to him it's NOTHING LIKE THE HEAD and REALLY BAD!
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#18
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Wait!

Riffhog has played/heard the combo. According to him it's NOTHING LIKE THE HEAD and REALLY BAD!


Yeah, that's what I've heard.

Plus that Gearwire review of the combo was enough to steer me clear of it!

I'll be playing mostly hard classic rock-ish stuff, so I figured I would just boost the preamp volume and control the actual volume with the Master volume anyways.

I was still kind of worried about it being too loud though. I'll probably buy the amp, then decide if I need an attenuator or not.

thanks everyone!
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Wait!

Riffhog has played/heard the combo. According to him it's NOTHING LIKE THE HEAD and REALLY BAD!


Ah! I forgot that they made the head and combo completely differently. Ignore my previous post.
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#20
peavey windsor studio is only 15 watts but is all tube and pretty loud. It has a built in attenuator. Id try it out if i was you. My friend recomended it to me before i got my b52 and he said it definitely sounded loud enough to play over drums.
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#21
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peavey windsor studio is only 15 watts but is all tube and pretty loud. It has a built in attenuator. Id try it out if i was you. My friend recomended it to me before i got my b52 and he said it definitely sounded loud enough to play over drums.

wait...so they're out?
Why arent there any youtube videos?!
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#22
I heard they haven't been all that great. Believe me, I've been waiting for them to come out. Still anxious to see more testing and clips, but from what I've heard, I'm a bit disappointed.
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#23
why aren't the windsor head and combo made the same??? i'm going to figure out what's different and fix it.


weber attenuator... is okay. BUT it still got the downside. you lose tone for a certain extent. iono if it's negligible for you, but i don't use my weber attenuator at home. my BJ at low volume is better than the BJ higher volume with my attenuator.

it kills the tubes when u crank it everyday too.
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#24
theres something on ebay i found wich is basicly a volume knob and i think the idea is it goes pre-power amp in the fx loop so lets you crank the master volume and use it as the volums instead. have a look for peavey volume box or something- within the last 30mins i have just found a cheap windsor which I WANT and have similar concerns
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Quote by ECistheBest
why aren't the windsor head and combo made the same??? i'm going to figure out what's different and fix it.


weber attenuator... is okay. BUT it still got the downside. you lose tone for a certain extent. iono if it's negligible for you, but i don't use my weber attenuator at home. my BJ at low volume is better than the BJ higher volume with my attenuator.

it kills the tubes when u crank it everyday too.



As soon as you figure out and fix it... Let me know...

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Quote by dudetheman
Could an attenuator damage my amp in any way?
Yes, it will launch a nuclear missle.

Sigged.

Anyway, TS, I think you're better off buying the Windsor, pulling two power tubes, and just being very light on the volume and gain knobs at home.
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Sigged.

Anyway, TS, I think you're better off buying the Windsor, pulling two power tubes, and just being very light on the volume and gain knobs at home.

Especially that one.
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#28
you are 640 dollars away from your windsor?
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#29
Quote by the.spine.surfs
Sigged.

Anyway, TS, I think you're better off buying the Windsor, pulling two power tubes, and just being very light on the volume and gain knobs at home.


You sigged me!

So you're saying that I can just pull two power tubes and that will let me achieve some nice breakup at a volume that won't demolish my home?


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you are 640 dollars away from your windsor?


Not really.

I currently only have 40 dollars, yes, but I will be getting a pretty large amount of money soon, which will bump me up into buying range.

I'm also planning on using eBay to get the head and then getting an Avatar 2 by 12.
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#30
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Yeah, that's what I've heard.

Plus that Gearwire review of the combo was enough to steer me clear of it!


Review? I would like to hear it!

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theres something on ebay i found wich is basicly a volume knob and i think the idea is it goes pre-power amp in the fx loop so lets you crank the master volume and use it as the volums instead. have a look for peavey volume box or something- within the last 30mins i have just found a cheap windsor which I WANT and have similar concerns


It's useless, it's just like a master volume...
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#31
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Review? I would like to hear it!


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-37204323112577660&q=Peavey+Windsor+Combo&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

WARNING: not for the faint of heart. There's some pretty nasty tone on that video...
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You sigged me!

So you're saying that I can just pull two power tubes and that will let me achieve some nice breakup at a volume that won't demolish my home?

Yes I did, and no I'm not.

Well, I kind of am. I believe that pulling either the inner two or outter two power tubes will cut your wattage in half. Which isn't cutting your volume in half, but will help make it a little less destructive. Then, you'll have a spare set of power tubes should you drop the amp off a cliff.

Besides, it has both volume and gain knobs. Keep one low, and the other high, and you'll get breakup.
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Yes I did, and no I'm not.

Well, I kind of am. I believe that pulling either the inner two or outter two power tubes will cut your wattage in half. Which isn't cutting your volume in half, but will help make it a little less destructive. Then, you'll have a spare set of power tubes should you drop the amp off a cliff.

Besides, it has both volume and gain knobs. Keep one low, and the other high, and you'll get breakup.


Well, if it'll help me get breakup at a lower volume, then that's good.

I already knew I would be cutting down the master volume, boosting the gain, and boosting the preamp volume so I would get breakup earlier.
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#34
Don't forget, this is one of the amps that has their "Texture" knob (Valveking line is the other one).

Turning the knob all the way to the left (counterclockwise) changes the amp to Class A, effectively cutting the power by about 60%. It allows the tubes to break up earlier. All the way to the right (clockwise) makes the amp a Class A/B, providing more headroom before tube breakup. Nice thing is you can either make it Class A or Class A/B or anywhere in-between.
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#35
Quote by dudetheman
Well, if it'll help me get breakup at a lower volume, then that's good.

I already knew I would be cutting down the master volume, boosting the gain, and boosting the preamp volume so I would get breakup earlier.

Pulling tubes is more to lower a hideously high wattage amp, or to save tubes, or to cook the power tubes a little more at non-lethal volumes. It won't help your practice tone, but it will be nice once you gig it.

It's worth mentioning that practice tone shouldn't be a problem. The Windsor will still sound nice at low volume, and the Champ's always there.
#36
^i don't understand the texture knob at all. i have to try it, but i doubt it's worth that much like you say. class A is less efficient than class AB. but the two classes at the same output power, class A should sound louder. i think.
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#37
Quote by the.spine.surfs
Pulling tubes is more to lower a hideously high wattage amp, or to save tubes, or to cook the power tubes a little more at non-lethal volumes. It won't help your practice tone, but it will be nice once you gig it.

It's worth mentioning that practice tone shouldn't be a problem. The Windsor will still sound nice at low volume, and the Champ's always there.


Yeah, I'll probably have to pull the tubes due to the low wattage handling Avatar 212.

What speakers should I get for my 212? I was thinking either Vintage 30s or Hellatone 60s.

Opinions on this?
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