#1
Does anyone know what the difference is in tone between the Original Big Muff and the re issue one? Is the original much better or not really?

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#2
the original has germanium transistors (i think, not sure) and the reissue would probably have silicon ones so theres a difference.
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#3
Any significant difference in tone though?
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#4
also there are a couple of differences in resistor values...lemme see if i can find the specifics
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#5
* Triangle version: R1=33k, C1=4n, R2=33k, C2=10n;
* Ramshead version: R1=33k, C1=4n, R2=22k, C2=10n;
* 1975 version: R1=39k, C1=4n, R2 = 22k, C2=10n;
* 1977 opamp version (1): R1=5.6k, C1=100n, R2=1.2k, C2=120n;
* 1977 opamp version (2): R1=8.2k, C1=100n, R2=1.2k, C2=120n;
* Green Russian version: R1=20k, C1=3.9n, R2=22k, C2=10n;
* Late model: R1=39k, C1=4n, R2=100k, C2=10n
* Reissue version: R1=22k, C1=3.9n, R2=22k, C2=10n;
* Little Big Muff version = reissue version.

Heres a few......my source was this page that is PACKED with info on the Big Muff

http://www.student.ru.nl/r.kerkhof/Taas/Mods/Big%20Muff.htm
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^Lol
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#7
Why are we lolsing?
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#8
Quote by Bloodshed
Why are we lolsing?

Because of all that resistor information. Do you know about what the original big muff sounds like?
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#9
Well, I've got a quick sound clip of Pink Floyd preforming in '77 with Gilmour making use of a Big Muff. Keep in mind, however, that the Muff here is also running with a Boost pedal, so it won't sound like this on its own.

http://www.gilmourish.com/wp-content/downloads/animals_shineon1.mp3

The Muff kicks in about half-way through. Just before that there's a slight change of tone where he turns on the boost.
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#12
So you're saying the Little Big Muff is a copy of the american Big Muff Pi currently in production?
#13
lol, I havent played the first one but I have played a 1977. It was pretty nice sounding...almost had a slight octaving sound to it. And while they did not use germanium transistors, they DID use germanium diodes
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#14
Quote by CanCan
So you're saying the Little Big Muff is a copy of the american Big Muff Pi currently in production?


It's supposed to be an exact copy of the current reissue, just in a smaller case. However, according to the site I provided, it appears that it's actually closer in tone to the vintage ones than the "big" reissues for whatever reason....
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#15
Quote by tremaine2007
Does anyone know what the difference is in tone between the Original Big Muff and the re issue one? Is the original much better or not really?

Thanks.
Original Muffs blow the reissues out of the water.
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#16
Quote by BrainDamage
Original Muffs blow the reissues out of the water.

Cool but in what way? Have you played both?
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#17
I've got a vintage one. They are pretty much the same, but the reissue sounds smoother and overall nicer to me. The older one seems to be brighter. I actually like the new one better. I would get one, but i already got the old one.
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Quote by tremaine2007
Cool but in what way? Have you played both?
I haven't played an original Muff (Triangle or Ram's Head), but I've played a NYC reissue a few times, own a green Sovtek, and am familiar with the sound of the older muffs from the clips I've heard and all the Pink Floyd stuff I listen to The reissue seems too muddy to me, I just generally don't like the tone from it (especially when the tone knob is turned up). My Sovtek is very clear, while still retaining that thick, distorted sound (granted the Sovteks from the 90s are different from the Ram's Head/Triangle/'77 muffs, but I still prefer any of those to the reissues).
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Step 2: Insert Green Ringer, EQ, 3 dead squirrels and a microwave into said SG
Step 3: Plug in and freak the **** out.