#1
so im just starting to get a hang of theory and my teacher told me to find out the scales in songs. i just want to know if im right or not. in the opening solo of fade to black i think it starts with i think a A mixalydian then later it goes into a aoelien i think or maybe Lydian. but tell me if im on the right track
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#4
Yeah, i think you're right about the A mixolydian, or it could be b melodic minor. I'm just learning this stuff as well, so...
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Yeah, i think you're right about the A mixolydian, or it could be b melodic minor. I'm just learning this stuff as well, so...
He's not. At no point does the song go into any kind of major tonality.

B Melodic Minor might be used, but I doubt it. The song sounds like it uses the A, B, and E Aeolian scales and nothing more, except for maybe a bit of harmonic minor.
#6
with the acoustic chord progression I thought it went Am, Cmaj, Gmaj and Em. So if the key was Aminor, surely the E would be a major chord. is the key not Eminor, just starting on an A minor (and written in A dorian). I may be well off but thats the way i figured it.
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#8
The beginning is in Bm, and it switches to Am for the ending lick of the intro solo. I know that much.
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#9
Couldn't the intro just aswell be in Dmajor? I've been playing for a while but only recently I've been getting into theory. What is it that determines what key(and therefor what scale?) a song is in?
#10
So if the key was Aminor, surely the E would be a major chord.


Only if it was A harmonic minor.
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#12
^^ I thought that as E is the 5th of A, in any A chord progression (minor or major) the E chord would be major, therefore the chord progession could not be the key of Aminor?
#13
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^^ I thought that as E is the 5th of A, in any A chord progression (minor or major) the E chord would be major, therefore the chord progession could not be the key of Aminor?


No, there's an Em chord in Am.

A B C D E F G

G is a b3 from E.
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No, there's an Em chord in Am.

A B C D E F G

G is a b3 from E.


Ok man, thanks. I guess i never thought about it that way, constructing triads from the scale notes, I was only thinking about the modes being major
#15
Well, even then, with the modes of A minor, the one that starts with E is Phrygian, which is a minor mode.
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#16
**** yeah you're right. I wasn't thinking of A minor as a C major, only thinkin of the "5th" as being major (in terms of Amajor I mean). I think I was just confusin myself totally (an probably everyone else).
#17
i know what you meant.

you were applying the Major Minor Minor Major Major Minor Minor pattern to the minor scale.

obviously the minor scale rearranges the pattern to Minor Minor Major Minor Minor Major Major.

It is interesting that you stumbled across this though, because it is sometimes desireable to have a major 5th degree chord and this is how the Harmonic Minor is created. The raised 7th degree of the harmonic minor acts as a raised 3rd in the V chord, hence making the 5th degree major.
#18
yeah someone did point that out earlier on, I just didn't understand it! I guess i should brush up on my theory before i start trying to advise anyone else! Thanks for explaining that though