#1
I spoke to an established engineer who works on behalf of Mesa in the UK and he said the tubes don't make THAT much of a difference, they just need to be matched... Anyone had any tubes that have tightened up the sound?? I'm looking at the set of KT88's and KT66's from euro tubes, anyone got them at all?

I'm looking to tighten up the Triple Rec or get rid of it and go for the Mark IV, but that's also lacking in the low end...
#4
It depends. If you change from stock tubes to maybe JJ or Tungsol tubes, good tubes, itll make a difference. And the different types of tubes give amps some different sound qualities. AN amp with 12AX7 tubes sounds different than an amp with EL84s.
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Quote by qotsa1998
It depends. If you change from stock tubes to maybe JJ or Tungsol tubes, good tubes, itll make a difference. And the different types of tubes give amps some different sound qualities. AN amp with 12AX7 tubes sounds different than an amp with EL84s.


LOL, El84s are power tubes. Noob
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LOL, El84s are power tubes. Noob


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#8
Yeh from eurotubes they're JJ's. Just wondering wether it will tighten up the sound ENOUGH or I should just go for another amp all together. I've already gone through the krank krankenstein, that was tight, but didn't have the low end, and the triple recto, not tight, but a fat low end. comprimise!!?
#9
Quote by Masonpwiley
Well if you have old tubes it won't sound as good.

If you mean old to mean worn out, then you're right. If you mean old to mean made back in the day, you're brutally wrong! NOS tubes are better than any new production tubes, 90% of the time.

I notice differences in tubes. If you really want to test tubes...buy a Valve Junior combo and a Champ 600 combo. Between the two, you'll be able to sample lots and lots of different power and preamps tubes, and train your ears to hear the difference. Good times!
#10
There are tiny amps that use preamp triodes for the output stage (Firefly anyone?)

But anyways that is a rare case.

I've heard a number of people who like KT 77s/88s over their counterparts (EL34s,6L6s, 5881s,6550s, etc). Never actually heard an amp with em though
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There are tiny amps that use preamp triodes for the output stage (Firefly anyone?)

But anyways that is a rare case.

I've heard a number of people who like KT 77s/88s over their counterparts (EL34s,6L6s, 5881s,6550s, etc). Never actually heard an amp with em though

Put an amp using a preamp triode for output will sound differnt than an amp using a powertube. That's why I like the 12A_7 + EL84 or 12AX_ + 6V6 layout amps.

I'll have to try some other tube with this amp, just for flavour. Mabye, when I'm back from Spring Break, I'll borrow my Twin's 12AT7 phase inverter and one of it's SovtekWXT+'s, just to see how they sound.
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not really. the vox VT's use a 12AX7 as a power tube.
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The new 12ax7 mullard not the nos are really nice sounding. I have compared them both great tubes.
#15
Quote by The red Strat.
not really. the vox VT's use a 12AX7 as a power tube.


Not really. It's part of the power amp, but if you consider that a power tube, you might as well consider phase inverters as power tubes too (which are also commonly 12ax7's).
#16
Quote by mr_hankey
Not really. It's part of the power amp, but if you consider that a power tube, you might as well consider phase inverters as power tubes too (which are also commonly 12ax7's).

yes i consider that a power tube.


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#17
Changing tubes makes a big difference depending on the quality of the previous tubes.

Going from Mesa tubes to JJ tubes....holy crap what a difference. Cleaner cleans, crunchier gains...whole new amp. If I went from a high gain set of JJ's to the normal JJ's, I highly doubt there would be much of a difference.
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#18
Kool man, yeh i've not even got the mesa sovteks in there, just standard sovtek 5881's! Yeh, plus i'm in the uk, so a whole set of kt88's and 66's will cost me like £150!
#19
oh yeh.. do you think the jj's will tighten the sound up a bit more aswell??!
#20
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oh yeh.. do you think the jj's will tighten the sound up a bit more aswell??!


big definatly.

I was cutting the gain back on my roadking the first week I had JJ's in it. There was a HUGE improvement.

I believe Krank uses those KT88's. They get really mean!
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#21
sweet, i'll give them a go man!! thanks for the help Just trying to get the perfect sound you know! The recto's ALMOST got it, just a bit loose, hopefully the jj's will sort it!!

Yeh?? what roadking you got I or II?
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sweet, i'll give them a go man!! thanks for the help Just trying to get the perfect sound you know! The recto's ALMOST got it, just a bit loose, hopefully the jj's will sort it!!

Yeh?? what roadking you got I or II?


Series I. It was the 52nd roadking built.
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big definatly.

I was cutting the gain back on my roadking the first week I had JJ's in it. There was a HUGE improvement.

I believe Krank uses those KT88's. They get really mean!

No, Krank uses Sovtek 6550s. I know 6550s and KT88s are pretty much the same tube, but Krank uses a different brand.
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