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Ceramic
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#1
I bought one of the new Fender Champion 600's. As I planned, I upgraded the tubes and bought a Ted Weber 6" Ceramic speaker. Recently he started making 6" Alnico speakers again. Which type of magnet did the originals have in the 1950's? Has anyone else swapped speakers in this amp? Oh whatever shall I do? Bare in mind the type of amp it is.


Ceramic


Alnico


???????
Last edited by Gutch220 at Mar 1, 2008,
#3
Original 50s ones had Alnico.

Get an Alnico one if possible, but try to make sure it has the biggest magnet you can find. Weber make a load of alnico speakers but some have 7oz magnets which give not much low end response... If you can't get an Alnico 6" with a decent sized magnet go for a fat-ass ceramic.
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Original 50s ones had Alnico.

Get an Alnico one if possible, but try to make sure it has the biggest magnet you can find. Weber make a load of alnico speakers but some have 7oz magnets which give not much low end response... If you can't get an Alnico 6" with a decent sized magnet go for a fat-ass ceramic.


yea, currently Ted Weber has 7 oz Alnico magnets and his Ceramic magnets are 16 oz. (which I already own)
I would try and find a heavier alnico magnet but 6" alnico speakers are hard to find.
#6
Ah cool.

Yeah I'd stick with the Ceramic if that's what you got... The Alnico will have tighter bass, poorer note definition, be smoother, have less headroom and add more natural compression, but seeing as the Ceramic is so much larger magnetwise I'd say it's the more logical speaker to have.
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#7
I have a 6" alnico Jensen in a similar amp from Harmony. It really does sound cool.
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#8
How big is the speaker? and is it original to the amp or aftermarket?


I also have two Celestions Blues in an AC30 and they sound "good" to say the least. So that, along with the fact that they originally had alnico's, makes me want to look for a heavier alnico speaker. Maybe a speacial order is what I need.
#9
It's original, dating back -I guess- to the mid 60's.

It looks similar to this reissue 8" version:



The magnet's really not very big at all.
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#10
I was going to buy a Champ 600 but instead i ended up in a big fight with the guy in the shop. He wanted to charge me 360euro for it at which point i told him everything in his shop was ridiculously overpriced and that i could get it on Thomann for 180euro (which is true). But back to the topic i don't know which was in the original amps but i've always preferred alnico speakers to ceramic
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#11
maybe I can buy an alnico, then use the other two 6" ceramic speakers to build a mini extension cabinet
Last edited by Gutch220 at Mar 2, 2008,
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I was going to buy a Champ 600 but instead i ended up in a big fight with the guy in the shop. He wanted to charge me 360euro for it at which point i told him everything in his shop was ridiculously overpriced and that i could get it on Thomann for 180euro (which is true). But back to the topic i don't know which was in the original amps but i've always preferred alnico speakers to ceramic


excellent! did you try it in ireland? which shop (just out of interest; it's probably too far from me anyway)?

back to the original question- i'd probably go alnico. not sure if I've tried any alnico speakers, but they're meant to sound more vintage, right? assuming it's a similar difference as that between ceramic and alnico pickups.
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#13
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maybe I can but an alnico, then use the other two 6" ceramic speakers to build a mini extension cabinet


we'll need pics of that if you do that!
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