#1
I'm looking to get a mega tight, but with a fat low end sound. I did have the old krankenstein, it was mega tight, but lacking the bass, and I also have a triple recto, not tight but fat low end.

Has anyone tried out the krankenstein Plus (I'm on a way keyboard, can't find the symbol!) But yeh, it's now either between the krankenstein plus or the mark IV or the triple recto, but to be fair, I don't think i'm gonna be able to tighten up the recto to how I want it..
#3
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+1. Mark IV's always seem pretty trebly to me.
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#4
look at erock503's profile thing. he has clips of both fortunately for you
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#5
yeh man i've been speaking to him quite a bit actually, been well helpful! it's hard to make a decision without playing both amps, but they don't sell them in any shops here in the UK, so it's gonna be hard to try them out and decide which one. I'm really going for a black album tone, so maybe the Mark IV, but according to Erock the krankenstein plus is more aggressive and has more low end
#6
The Krankenstein would sound alright for $500, but for what they change, it's terrible. The Triple Rectifier is completely pointless unless you're playing un-miced stadiums with the clean channel.
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#7
yehh the triple rec is just to messy, really not tight enough. You think the Mark IV with maybe a maxon od808 as a gain boost?? Could nail the black album sort of sound i'm going for....!?
#8
I am a huge fan of Kranks ( I have a Revolution ) so i would suggest maybe looking for a Revolution? They are a lot differnt then the 'Stein+, i loved the KrankenStein+ when i played it, but once i played the Rev1 i was sold. The Krankensteins (i love saying Krankenstsin for some reason) has it's own flavor for sure. If you like the Stein, try the Rev.

#9
haha! yeh? to be honest i didn't even dig the krank that much, it just had nice clarity to it, definitely not enough gain or low end though..
#10
The Triple Recto I played sounded great for metal, but nothing else...is that what you're playing? There are way better heads than the Triple Recto for the same price.
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#11
Yeh i'm playing Metal man. Metallica old school tone is really what I'm looking for, but with a bit more low end. The low end of the TR is what drew me to it, but it's just way too loose for my liking now! What amps would you suggest?? I think I might try out the Mark IV like i said, with an overdrive pedal as a gain boost
#12
I think the Mark IV is a great amp, and have also heard great things about the ENGL Powerball and Diezel amps for metal.
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#13
Yeh man, the only thing i'm worried about the powerball is that it sounds a bit TOO dark. The sound clips i've heard, it sounds really really nice and tight, but it just sounds a bit too dark, still it's got that low end the mark IV is apparently lacking in!!

Yeh?? what's diezel distortion like?
#14
Ehhh powerballs are a bit more brighter than most metal amps...IMO.

Maybe a 5150, or a 6505?
#15
Really?? I'm definitely gonna give it a go.. Don't like the 5150, used it for lead stuff in my last recording, just doesn't cut it i don't think. Haven't triedf the 6505 though....
#16
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Really?? I'm definitely gonna give it a go.. Don't like the 5150, used it for lead stuff in my last recording, just doesn't cut it i don't think. Haven't triedf the 6505 though....

Then don't bother with the 6505, unless it's a + (although it's not THAT different).

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#17
hey bro, if you didn't dig your last Krankenstein, you probably won't like the newer ones either. It's a little tighter, and has more lowend and punch, but the voicing is basically the same. I think if you are shooting for that old school metallica sound, you would do great with a Mark IV. There is a lot of lowend there too if you dial it in. I used a Mesa OS 4x12 with my Mark IV, and it had plenty of thump matched with that cab. One thing to remember too, if you do end up trying out the Mark IV, it can be a little rough to dial in at first. Get some settings from the manual and people on the forums, so you aren't going in blind. It's a hell of an amp, I just preferred the Stein more for my modern metal tones. The Mark will cover a lot more ground however, and do it well.
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#18
Sorry to be so dismissive haha! But the roadsters distortion is near enough the same as the triple rectifier, I can't imagine it having a tighter sound!? I'm sure it's got that awesome low end you can get, especially with palm muting and picking, but then that messy messy loose distortion and high end!
#20
Erock, thanks again man! words of wisdom haha!! I think I might do that! Get one off ebay from the states, then buy the UK transformer
#21
Since you didn't mention anything about a price:

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#22
Yeh price isn't an issue, working loads at the moment. Sounds good, gain isn't tight enough though, nice low end
#23
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Sorry to be so dismissive haha! But the roadsters distortion is near enough the same as the triple rectifier, I can't imagine it having a tighter sound!? I'm sure it's got that awesome low end you can get, especially with palm muting and picking, but then that messy messy loose distortion and high end!

The Roadster and Roadking are much different than the regular rectos. I'd give them a shot, they're very capable of getting a tight sound out of them.
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#24
yeh?? i've heard that they aren't THAT different! You think it's a wiser choice over the Mark IV
#25
Speak to MESAexplorer or FLCLcowdude, they both have one. MESAexplorer also has a Mark IV so he can give you some comparisons there, it's also Erock's old one
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#27
Just be prepared to have to mess with the Mark IV a LOT. It does take a while to get a sound that you like out of it, but once you do you love it like nothing else.
#28
Hmm, just a heads up, found this on GC's used section for the Tucson store here.

http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedgear/details.cfm?listId=104571717 $1600 is a damn good deal, I'm half tempted to buy it and then just put it on ebay
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#29
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sorry, it's not that great of a deal... but $11,999 isn't too bad either.
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sorry, it's not that great of a deal... but $11,999 isn't too bad either.

Oh crap, wrong link.

http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedgear/details.cfm?listId=104674971
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#32
tehe

think it's really a c+ though?
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#33
Since you live in the UK I would skip both of them due to ridiculous prices. Look at Framus, ENGL, and Laney.
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#34
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tehe

think it's really a c+ though?

I dunno, I wanna know what's wrong with it if it is. I could buy it and make some good cash off it
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#35
Having Played Dual Rec solos, Roadsters, and Road Kings, I can say that the Roadster is MUCH tighter than the dual rec is. I didn't like the rec too much but I really liked the Roadster/RK.

On another note:

If money isn't an issue, look into:

Engl
Brunetti
Bogner
Vht
Rivera
Soldano
Diezel
Mako
Cameron
Splawn
Elmwood


The list of great high gain amp manufacturer's goes on for a long time.
#36
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I dunno, I wanna know what's wrong with it if it is. I could buy it and make some good cash off it

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#37
Yehh but i really dig the mesa distortion though... Dude, i'll buy that C+!!